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Business Pillar 4 - Pricing
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Business Pillar 4 - Pricing
IN THIS EPISODE:
#085 - We're on to the fourth business pillar this week, and it's one that makes joyful fireworks explode in the nerd-center of my brain: PRICING!
Yep, this week I channel my inner CPA to help you sort through the numbers. Because if you want to be in business, you need to ensure that you're actually making a profit. There are pricing traps waiting to swallow up unsuspecting new photographers—and I don't want you to fall victim.
What To Listen For:
- The single most important number to figure out
- How to handle the digital file pricing conundrum
- Suggested markups for wall art, albums and more
- Nicole's favorite of the three common pricing strategies…
- ...and why a "floppy" print never leaves her studio
- The universal answer to the What should my prices be? question (!!)
Resources From This Episode:
- FREE Pricing Checklist
- Free 45-minute Pricing Masterclass
- Episode 79: Business Pillar #1 - Legal & Admin
- Episode 81: Business Pillar #2 - Branding
- Episode 83: Business Pillar #3 - Website
- Connect with us on Instagram and YouTube.
- Explore valuable pet photography resources here
- Discover effective pricing and sales strategies for all portrait photographers.
- Ready to grow your business? Elevate helps you do just that.
- Check out our recommended gear and favorite books.
Full Transcript ›
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Welcome to the hair of the dog podcast.
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I'm Nicole Begley.
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And today we are in the middle of our six apart
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business pillar series.
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And today is business pillar.
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Number four,
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all about pricing and sales.
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If you've missed our first couple,
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go back to episode number 79 on June 22nd,
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2021. And grab business pillar,
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number one,
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legal and admin.
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And then the following week we had business pillar,
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number two,
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branding, and then number three website today,
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we are on to pricing and sales for business pillar.
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Number four out of six.
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Stay tuned.
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Welcome to the hair of the dog podcast.
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If you're a pet photographer,
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ready to make more money and start living a life by
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your design,
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you've come to the right place.
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And now your host,
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pet photographer,
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travel addict,
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chocolate martini connoisseur,
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Nicole Begley.
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All right.
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Hey, Hey everybody,
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Nicole, here I am back for business pillar.
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Number four,
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you guys,
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this is my favorite pillar.
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It's not really a secret that at some point,
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when I thought about changing careers after being in the Zoologic
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panel training field for 13 years,
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and I was like,
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oh, what can I do?
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I actually considered,
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possibly becoming a CPA.
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I mean,
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nerd alert.
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I love numbers.
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I love numbers.
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I love pricing.
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I love looking at my students' pricing and making little tweaks
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that result in drastically bigger sales for them.
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It's one of my superpowers and one of my most favorite
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things to do,
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if you're an academy member,
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be sure to have me review your pricing during a laser
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coaching or an office hours.
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If you're an elevate,
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we of course will review that as well at any of
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our calls.
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So there is nothing I love more than looking at pricing
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and looking at pricing strategically.
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There is so much more to pricing than just a hard
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and fast four times a markup role or a 25% cost
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of goods sold rule,
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or just charge X charge wide charge Z,
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put it together this way and call it a day.
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There are so many different ways we can put this together
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based on what we want to sell,
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what we want to make,
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how much time is invested and all of these other moving
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parts. Now,
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the first thing we really need to look at that everybody
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needs to know for their pricing is how much you hope
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to make,
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because you can't just say,
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oh, I want to make more money.
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Okay. Congratulations.
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Here's a nickel.
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All right.
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That's not probably not,
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probably not what you had in mind when you said I
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want to make more money in my photography sessions.
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So we need to start with this intention with trying to
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determine what our actual sales goal is.
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Because if we don't have a goal,
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then we're really just shooting these darts at a wall that
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might not even have a dart board that we just don't
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don't even know what to build our pricing and collections and
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packages around.
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We don't know what products to offer.
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We don't know how much profit we need.
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Like this is important stuff.
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The most important thing that you can possibly do for your
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pricing is to determine your target session average.
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Now, how do I do that?
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How do I determine my target session average?
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Well, I just so happened to have a training that walks
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you through this process.
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If you go to hair of the dog academy.com/pricing,
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you can register and it's complimentary,
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it's a free 45 minute class that takes you through how
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to figure out your target session.
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Average. Really the basis of it is figuring out how much
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money you want to make for profit,
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calculating how much of money it takes to run your business,
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and then how much money you would need to have to
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cover the product costs for the profit that you wanted to
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make, as well as any taxes and things like that.
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And then looking at the number of hours you want to
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work on your business,
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the number of hours it takes for you to take a
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session from original inquiry all the way through to delivery and
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how much time you're working on the admin of your business.
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So it's putting all of these numbers into a formula and
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it's coming out with a target session average of saying like,
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okay, I want to shoot 50 clients a year and I
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need my target session average to be $1,500.
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So I'm going to save you a whole lot of math
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right now and tell you that as a general rule,
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I've seen so many photographers do this calculation.
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And if they are looking to earn,
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I don't know,
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50 or $60,000
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of profit in their business,
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then generally it's about 50,000
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or 50,000
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clients. That would be a lot.
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We'd be really tired.
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It's usually about 50 or 75 clients at about a $1,500
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average, 1500 to $2,000
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is generally the ballpark that most people end up wanting to
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be in,
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to hit the numbers that they want to earn based on
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the number of hours they want to work in their business
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and the number of hours it takes to go through a
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client session from beginning to end.
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So that is by far,
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the most important number to figure out though,
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is to have an idea of what you want to make.
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Because one of the challenges that I think a lot of
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people have when they first get into this industry.
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And I did the same.
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I remember I was at my sister-in-law's house,
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New Jersey.
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I was still working.
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I think I was still working at the aviary.
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I can't remember if I had left that job or not,
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or I might've been on maternity leave and thinking,
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you know,
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what do I want to do next?
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Anyway, regardless,
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I was very early in my photography journey.
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I don't think I was in business yet.
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And I remember her telling me about somebody that was doing
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mini sessions at their local park for like $50 each.
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And just doing a whole bunch of people from this moms
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group. I was like,
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oh wow.
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You know,
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I can charge like $175 per client to do a full
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session. I'm making like $175 a day.
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Wow. I would've been making so much money if it's just
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digital files and don't really have any cost of goods sold,
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I'm going to be making so much money.
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So this is a trap that many of us fall into
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when we're first starting to explore this world of photography and
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portrait photography,
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whether pets or families or newborns or whatever John HRA you
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are photographing is we look at this all-inclusive model and we
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look at these digital files and we think,
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oh man,
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that's all profit.
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Yeah. It's not turns out it is not because there's a
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lot of time invested in that.
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There is a lot of business expenses.
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I mean,
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just add up how much all your photography gear costs,
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how much your computer costs,
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how much education costs,
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all of these different things.
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Taxes just,
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there's so much,
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there's so much.
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So it actually costs quite a bit of money to run
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our business properly.
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So working in a situation in which you're charging just a
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couple of hundred dollars for a session,
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unless you have a very high volume business,
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which can be done.
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But the way I was looking at it was like,
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oh, I'll meet a new client,
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you know,
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maybe three days a week because here's the other thing you
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can't be shooting every day because you need time to run
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your business and edit those images and do all of those
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things. And maybe a day off every now and again,
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and weather delays,
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things like that.
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So having a client every single day is often not scalable
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unless you're a studio shooter and you're going for that high
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volume. Like I said,
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it is possible to have a high volume model that is
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very, very profitable.
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But most of us in general,
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in the hair of the dog community are looking to create
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more of a boutique business experience with having less than 100
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clients in a year.
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In which case we need to make more per client to
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reach our financial goals and to not make ourselves crazy by
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working all the hours of all the days and nights and
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weekends and holidays and all of the things.
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So again,
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this is where that target session average comes into play.
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So for the sake of moving forward here,
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let's just,
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let's just estimate that we want a $1,500
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target session average,
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because I think that probably is one of the most common
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between there in 2000.
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So that's our first step.
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Number two step in determining our pricing is figuring out what
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we want to offer.
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Do you want to sell just digital files?
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There's nothing wrong with that.
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For those of you guys that are,
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you know,
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want to sell and focus on digital files,
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there's nothing wrong with that.
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But here's the challenge.
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The challenge comes and that digital files are often seen as
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a commodity,
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like a banana.
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You know,
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if you went to one store and the bananas were 40
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cents each,
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and then you went to another store and there are $2
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each you're going to be like,
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well, why the heck are these bananas so much more expensive
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over here than they are at that other store?
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Digital files are very similar.
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The general public does not necessarily see the difference in our
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work for why photographers,
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AEs digital files are $2,000.
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If photographer B's digital files are $200.
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So there in lies the conundrum when you're offering digital files
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only. And since we figured out our target session average,
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that means we need to be making at least $1,500
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per client for our sales.
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So it can be kind of challenging to have a digital
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file focused business and be commanding that much money for your
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digital files.
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It's not impossible.
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It's just one of the challenges I want you to be
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aware of,
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if you are considering focusing on selling digital files only now,
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if you want to do products.
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My favorite thing is products with digital files.
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So the clients get the digital files that they think they
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want. And they're also getting the products that they actually are
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going to love much more than the digital files over the
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course of many years.
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And I'm creating artwork that fills my heart and my soul.
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printed on big,
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beautiful wall pieces.
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It's my most favorite thing ever,
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or a beautiful album or whatever products you love.
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So you can go ahead and combine those and either include
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those digital files with your products.
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ways to do that.
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when we talk about pricing strategy,
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but for here are step number two is determine what products
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those are.
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So I don't want you to go to your lab,
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open up their website and say,
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I need to offer all of these in 37 different finishes
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on my prints and canvases and metals and acrylics and holograms
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and all of the things because they offer it.
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So I'm need to offer it because my clients might want
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it. You know,
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that's overwhelming.
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I went to a furniture store when I was visiting friends
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in Boston.
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It's like six levels huge.
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it was rainy.
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do the ropes course.
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great. I'm going to go look at furniture because I love
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looking at model homes and I love furniture shopping.
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So I took a quick spin around upstairs.
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You guys,
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I'm glad I wasn't actually shopping for a couch because there
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were literally 17 rooms of couches,
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17 rooms of couches,
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and to make matters worse.
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They weren't even like in the same room,
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you know,
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because you could at least in the same room,
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look at two,
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kind of at the same time or sit on them kind
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of back and forth.
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But when you have to go through 14 or 17 different
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rooms to get to the other one,
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you forget what the other couch felt like.
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I couldn't imagine shopping for a couch at that particular furniture
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store. So what's my point here.
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My point here is that we should not offer so many
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products that we feel like a client shopping for a couch
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at that furniture store because overwhelmed minds are just going to
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say, oh,
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Nope, nevermind,
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forget it.
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Just give me the digitals I'm outta here or nevermind.
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I'm going to go somewhere else.
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So we want to have a streamlined product menu and it
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is it's okay to have one or two or max three
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types of wall art or three types of albums.
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But really you can start with one type of wall art,
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one album,
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some prints,
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some digital files,
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that's it.
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That's all you actually need.
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you really could do a business with just one type of
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wall art and some prints,
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digital files,
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that's it.
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You don't need a gazillion things.
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Sure. Is it nice to find a beautiful new product and
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add it?
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Yeah, of course.
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You know,
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so, so we can definitely have things to offer our clients,
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but we just want to make sure we're not offering too
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many things.
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And the other point I want to make on products is
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that I want you to choose products that you love products
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that you love,
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how they look with your word don't choose products,
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just because you think they're trendy,
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your clients will be attracted to your products and your artwork
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because you love it.
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Same thing with your,
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your craft and your art and the images you create.
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Don't just create images.
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Cause you're like,
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oh, this is what Marcel,
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no create the images that speak to your heart.
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And you're going to attract the people that also love that.
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So same thing with products.
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So here's our homework.
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Again, remember a target session,
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average, then figure out what products,
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just make a little list of what products you love.
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All right.
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So then number three,
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we're moving on to our pricing strategy.
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There are a few different types of pricing strategy.
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We can have the good old fashioned collections and which is,
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you know,
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option a option B option C at different price points.
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We could have a bonus schedule,
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which is if you purchase a wall piece,
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you save 50% on your digital files,
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or we could do a create your own collection,
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such as choose something from here,
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choose something from here,
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choose something from here and save on your entire order.
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So those are the three main pricing strategies.
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There are pros and cons to all three.
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I have used all three,
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my two personal favorites are actually collections and the bonus schedule.
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And I actually like to work with both of those in
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tandem together because one of the challenges with collections is when
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you have somebody come in,
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look at your collections and say,
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oh, I want all that,
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but can I sub this for that?
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Because I don't want that.
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Or can I change this or that?
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You know,
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that gets really confusing.
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So that's one of the downsides of collections,
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but the upside is that it's really clear for consumers.
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They come in,
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they see the collections,
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it gives them estimated spending points.
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They see what's included.
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They understand how it works.
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So I love them.
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But if you work with those along with a bonus schedule,
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then you have an easy way to say when they want
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a sub thing,
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say, okay,
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I totally understand that,
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you know,
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these collections aren't right for everyone.
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So I also offer this bonus schedule so that you can,
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you know,
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get exactly what you want.
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And that bonus schedule,
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because so many consumers do want the digital files to have
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for their computer and their home and their archives,
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or to print some prints or a little calendar,
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things like that,
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that having those as the bonus works really,
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really well,
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but it doesn't have to be your bonus schedule could be
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order a wall piece and get an album 50% off or
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order an album and save $400 on a 16 by 20
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or wall piece.
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Like you can create these bonus schedules based on what ever
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you want to be selling.
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So this is why that step before figuring out what products
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we love,
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figuring out what products we want to sell.
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Well, it's very,
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very critical.
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Are you guys starting to see how it's next to them
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possible to come up with a pricing strategy?
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If you don't know how much you want to make and
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what you want to be focused on selling,
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I hear it all the time.
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Nicole, what's the most popular products for pet photography.
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You guys,
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it's what you love.
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I know photographers that sell mostly all albums.
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Their messaging is around the albums.
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They love the albums.
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They sell the albums.
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They have plenty of clients buying albums,
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right? Clients rarely buy albums.
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Usually clients are buying a wall piece and adding on the
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digital files.
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And you know what that's because I love selling wall pieces.
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I don't love selling the albums as much.
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I actually don't shoot for album sales.
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As much as I used to my sessions nowadays tend to
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be a little bit more streamlined with a little bit more
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focus on creating a wall piece and then having a few
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extra digitals as well.
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So that all depends on how you want to work.
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So anyway,
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sorry, little tangent there.
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And let's jump back to this pricing strategy.
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So those collections bonus schedule create your home collection.
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As I mentioned,
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is choosing something from different buckets and then they save on
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their whole order.
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So the challenge with that,
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I did that for,
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for a while and it was good.
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I, the bottom line is all of these worked and all
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of these different pricing,
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strategist strategies resulted in approximately a very similar target sale for
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me about 2,500
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to $3,000.
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And so they'll work.
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So I don't want to any of you to get hung
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up on,
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oh my gosh,
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what am I going to do?
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Which one do I do?
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Choose just pick one,
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just pick one and try it.
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And you know,
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it will work because it's not that packaging pricing container that
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dictates our average sale.
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It's how we set it up and how we encourage people
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to do what we want them to do.
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So how do we do that by offering special incentives to
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continue down the path,
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you basically create a little path for them to walk as
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they go through their pricing as they go through the experience.
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So for instance,
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my current path is let's choose Walmart,
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we're shooting for Walmart.
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I also do.
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I have a digital file option too,
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for people that are mainly interested in digital file.
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So let me back up here,
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basically the new way that I've been doing my pricing this
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year and I've been enjoying it is that I talked to
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my client and I tell them,
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I basically have two options.
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Your artwork,
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your way is my tagline.
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And it is a file option or a Walmart option.
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And the Walmart comes with a big,
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beautiful piece of wall art and two additional prints and digital
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files. So those three and then the digital file collection is
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an album block with 10 images and those 10 digital files.
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And so they can choose,
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or if they want,
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they can also do a create your own collection or sorry,
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a bonus schedule type thing where they choose a wall art
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and they can add on all the digital files too.
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So that way they kind of have the best of both
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worlds, excuse me,
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which is what I actually named that one.
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So anyway,
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the art of that pricing is what really leads people down
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the path to get them to purchase exactly what you want
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and getting them to spend somewhere near that target session,
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average of what you need in order to have a sustainable
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business. We dive into gosh,
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more of that in the academy.
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Like I said,
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it is really my zone of genius to give feedback to
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people's pricing guides and help them make a couple tweaks that
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result in so much more sales for them.
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So remember,
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cause you guys are an academy member,
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hit me up on a laser coaching or office hours.
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And I would love to give you feedback on your pricing.
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If you're an elevate,
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ask myself for the other coaches on one of our calls.
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And if you want information on either of those,
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just head on over to hair of the dog academy.com/academy,
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or hear the dog academy.com/elevate,
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we would love to have you in either program.
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Alright, even though I've been talking a little bit about the
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art of photography pricing,
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I want to also speak to the science and I might've
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gotten a little ahead of myself because the art usually comes
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in after you figure out the science,
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but I couldn't in good conscious do this podcast without mentioning
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the science of pricing.
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And that is where we dive into our cost of goods
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sold. I know cogs a four-letter word.
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You guys are probably running away,
535
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like turning off the podcast now,
536
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like I don't want to hear it,
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Nicole, you guys so important.
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So, so important.
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This is where that 25% cost of goods sold comes into
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play. And that is an industry benchmark PPA professional photographers of
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America has done numerous studies of different photography studios across the
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country, retail based home studio based on location-based.
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And they have found that 25% cost of goods sold is
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really the ceiling of expenses for our products to have a
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sustainable business.
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Does that mean that everything has to be marked up four
547
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times? Cause Nicole,
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have you seen the price of my 30 by 40 acrylic?
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I get it.
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I get it.
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It means that the average of your markup needs to be
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25%. So what that looks like on my price list is
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that my lower items,
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like my 11 by 14 might actually be marked up five
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times. So it has like a 15 or 20% cost of
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goods sold where my very large framed acrylic might only be
557
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marked up three times because that's such a higher price point.
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I have plenty of profit on that only market it up
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three times and how I choose that is to kind of
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make sense on the jumps on my price list.
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So I don't have like a $600 jump from one size
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to another.
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They kind of go up and some fairly consistent two to
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three to $400 increments depending on what the prices of those
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are. But so the main takeaway here is that those smaller
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items might be marked up a bit more than those larger
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items in terms of percent.
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So for your homework here is to take those products that
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we figured out and step to the products that you love,
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that you want to sell,
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figure out what sizes you want to offer.
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And then,
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then figure out what your costs are in that product and
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test them out with a markup of four times that would
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give you a 25% cost of goods sold.
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So if this wall piece costs $150,
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then you would want to sell it for approximately $600 because
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that's one 50 times four.
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And that works really,
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really well for Walmart where this markup strategy does not work
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well or albums or prints.
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And that is because albums have so many more images in
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it. And the time that you spend getting those albums ready,
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editing, all of those images in the album is significantly more
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than the time you're going to spend a prep.
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One file for one wall piece.
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So therefore albums,
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I have found generally,
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I like to see them at a markup of about 10
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times so that they have an actual 10% cost of goods
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sold. If you're looking at just those hard costs,
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because then it accounts for your time that you have been
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spending on that album.
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So Walmart mark it up times for albums,
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mark it up times 10,
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and then there's prince prince syndrome files.
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And these are like the wild west,
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because I can't tell you how many times I see a
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photographer offering a print for $8 or $25,
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gosh, anything under 50,
601
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but really even anything under 75 becomes really,
602
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really challenging to have enough profit there.
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And that is because the cost of goods for that print,
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the actual hard costs that you have to spend to get
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that print.
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You know,
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even if it's mounted,
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it's $10,
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there's just not enough prophet marking that up times five,
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four, then you're only earning 30 or $40 on that print.
611
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And that doesn't even cover the time you spent to edit
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and upload that image image and package it not to mention
613
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the packaging and the delivery and the time to shoot food
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and all of those things.
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So there is this minimum time,
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time component that we need to make sure that we get
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paid for which in my experience tends to be eight to
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12 hours per client,
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if you're running a boutique business.
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So if you're making 30 or $40 profit on a print
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divided by 10 it's like three or four or dollars an
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hour before your taxes and expenses not going to be able
623
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to be sustained.
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But here in lies,
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the challenge with prints,
626
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those prints are one of those like banana,
627
00:23:47,420 --> 00:23:48,950
like commodities,
628
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where people kind of expect them to be a certain price.
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So one of the things I do in my book,
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this and this with prints is a floppy print,
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never, ever,
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ever under any circumstance ever leaves my studio because a floppy
633
00:24:01,390 --> 00:24:06,520
print is quickly equated to a print at Costco or Walgreens
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or some other big box drug store.
635
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And when I only allow mounted prints with a linen texture
636
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and a UV coning to leave my studio,
637
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oh, all of a sudden clients can't compare that to the
638
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other things they've seen.
639
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So now it has more value now.
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They don't know what it actually costs me.
641
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And it's just inherently more valuable.
642
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The other thing I do to protect myself from that print
643
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sale, because I never want to tell a client no.
644
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So when somebody calls and they are just looking for an
645
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eight by 10 print,
646
00:24:37,270 --> 00:24:39,340
maybe a big one of 11 by 14,
647
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I want to be able to steer the conversation and let
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them know what I offer without telling them no,
649
00:24:47,770 --> 00:24:49,060
without telling them,
650
00:24:49,060 --> 00:24:49,690
Hey, yeah,
651
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,590
I would love to do that,
652
00:24:50,590 --> 00:24:51,970
but you need to buy more than that.
653
00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:52,360
I mean,
654
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,940
you can have a minimum purchase requirement.
655
00:24:55,030 --> 00:24:56,260
I didn't really love that though.
656
00:24:56,260 --> 00:24:58,150
Like what if I went into a clothing store and I
657
00:24:58,150 --> 00:24:59,620
just wanted a pair of earrings,
658
00:24:59,650 --> 00:25:00,070
but they're like,
659
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,080
no, you have to buy a pair of jeans too.
660
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,730
Well, I don't really like your jeans.
661
00:25:04,210 --> 00:25:05,350
I just doesn't sit right.
662
00:25:05,380 --> 00:25:07,390
Well to me as a consumer.
663
00:25:07,390 --> 00:25:08,650
So I'm not a huge fan.
664
00:25:08,650 --> 00:25:09,580
There's nothing wrong with it.
665
00:25:09,580 --> 00:25:11,170
Some people do it very successfully.
666
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,320
The way I like to protect myself from the people that
667
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,060
might want to purchase one print or around Christmas time,
668
00:25:17,090 --> 00:25:20,290
want just one digital file for the Christmas card is to
669
00:25:20,290 --> 00:25:22,870
not sell single prints or digital files.
670
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:23,470
Of course,
671
00:25:23,470 --> 00:25:26,200
if somebody comes in and they purchase a wall piece and
672
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,300
an album and they just want to print for their desk,
673
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:28,710
you know what,
674
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:29,950
I'm going to sell them a single print.
675
00:25:29,950 --> 00:25:30,580
That's fine,
676
00:25:30,610 --> 00:25:32,950
but I don't need to put in my product guide in
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00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:34,930
my conversations with inquiries,
678
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,880
letting them know that I sell a single print.
679
00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:40,300
I can sell those in a minimum package of five,
680
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:43,990
which takes my cost of those up to at least $500,
681
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:46,630
which for me is the minimum amount I need to make
682
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:48,460
on a shoot to not lose money.
683
00:25:48,490 --> 00:25:49,060
You guys,
684
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,430
that's not even to not make money.
685
00:25:51,580 --> 00:25:54,220
That is to not lose money for the time that I
686
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have spent.
687
00:25:55,210 --> 00:25:56,620
And really at $500,
688
00:25:56,620 --> 00:25:58,270
I probably am still losing some money.
689
00:25:58,330 --> 00:26:00,550
It really needs to be at least a thousand dollars than
690
00:26:00,550 --> 00:26:02,950
I make on a shoot in order for it to be
691
00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:04,810
at all reasonably profitable.
692
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,740
So that is one way to protect yourself from that print
693
00:26:08,770 --> 00:26:10,210
digital file pricing,
694
00:26:10,270 --> 00:26:11,740
because prince,
695
00:26:11,770 --> 00:26:14,200
you can only increase and digital files.
696
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,530
You can only increase so much because there is that market
697
00:26:17,530 --> 00:26:19,060
pressure. Like those bananas,
698
00:26:19,150 --> 00:26:21,160
a little bit of a commodity people kind of know what
699
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,960
they might feel like they should cost.
700
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,200
So that is just something to consider.
701
00:26:26,260 --> 00:26:27,460
And then digital files,
702
00:26:27,790 --> 00:26:28,690
oh, digital files,
703
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,440
digital files.
704
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,550
People are always asking,
705
00:26:30,550 --> 00:26:31,690
what should my price be?
706
00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:36,550
And the real answer is whatever your price needs to be
707
00:26:36,550 --> 00:26:37,930
to encourage your clients,
708
00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,730
to do whatever you wanted to do,
709
00:26:39,730 --> 00:26:41,440
to get them to that target session,
710
00:26:41,470 --> 00:26:42,850
average and purchase the products you,
711
00:26:43,860 --> 00:26:44,760
there really,
712
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,140
isn't a formula here,
713
00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:49,380
pricing your digital files is really an art form.
714
00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:50,850
And, you know,
715
00:26:50,850 --> 00:26:51,840
for instance,
716
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,780
for my way that I like to price,
717
00:26:54,810 --> 00:26:55,890
which is okay,
718
00:26:55,890 --> 00:26:56,880
let's buy that wall art.
719
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,860
And then you get like a bonus schedule by the wall
720
00:26:58,860 --> 00:27:00,660
piece and you save on digital files.
721
00:27:00,690 --> 00:27:01,860
Okay. I'll figure out.
722
00:27:01,890 --> 00:27:05,070
Most people get a 16 by 24 to a 20 by
723
00:27:05,070 --> 00:27:08,100
30 wall piece is kind of the average prices.
724
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:13,320
So maybe that costs like 7 95 to 9 95 on
725
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,340
those two sides.
726
00:27:14,340 --> 00:27:16,890
And I want to make $2,000
727
00:27:16,890 --> 00:27:18,270
on a sale.
728
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:20,340
I'm somewhere 1500,
729
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,110
2000. So I need to then have that digital file add
730
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:28,170
on be at least a thousand dollars.
731
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,780
So then I can look at okay to add on digital
732
00:27:30,780 --> 00:27:31,530
files for a thousand.
733
00:27:31,530 --> 00:27:32,640
Is that the whole session?
734
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,060
Is it 10?
735
00:27:33,060 --> 00:27:33,900
Is it 20?
736
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,070
You can make that up.
737
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:37,230
You can figure out what it is that makes sense for
738
00:27:37,230 --> 00:27:39,510
your workflow and how you work and how much time you
739
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:42,210
have and how many images you usually create a session and
740
00:27:42,210 --> 00:27:43,650
then double it.
741
00:27:43,650 --> 00:27:46,170
And there's your retail price for your digital files?
742
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,830
So my retail price for digital files would be $2,000.
743
00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:52,860
But if they purchase a 16 by 24 or larger wall
744
00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:55,230
piece, that starts at 7 95,
745
00:27:55,230 --> 00:27:58,380
they can get the digital files for half off.
746
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:59,580
So you can do the math.
747
00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:02,790
That's actually less expensive than if they purchased the digital files
748
00:28:02,790 --> 00:28:03,570
on their own.
749
00:28:03,570 --> 00:28:05,100
Why on earth would I do that?
750
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:09,720
I do that because it feels my soul to give them
751
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,200
this beautiful piece of art that they are going to love
752
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,980
forever and ever,
753
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,710
and they still get those digital files.
754
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:21,330
It kind of moves them into a value seeking because instead
755
00:28:21,330 --> 00:28:21,870
of like man,
756
00:28:21,870 --> 00:28:23,700
$2,000 for those digital files,
757
00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:24,000
it's like,
758
00:28:24,030 --> 00:28:26,340
oh, well I can get this beautiful piece of art.
759
00:28:26,340 --> 00:28:28,260
And then look at what I'm saving.
760
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:30,090
They become a value seeker.
761
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,330
So this is what I mean with the art of pricing.
762
00:28:33,450 --> 00:28:36,270
So to go over high level again,
763
00:28:36,270 --> 00:28:38,520
how we price those individual products,
764
00:28:38,610 --> 00:28:41,730
it is wall art times four albums,
765
00:28:41,730 --> 00:28:46,290
times 10 prints only collections of five,
766
00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:49,170
gosh, at least for like three $5,400
767
00:28:49,230 --> 00:28:52,590
and then digital files or making those up based on what
768
00:28:52,590 --> 00:28:54,360
our target session average is.
769
00:28:54,390 --> 00:28:59,010
So to recap this whole podcast today of how to start
770
00:28:59,010 --> 00:29:00,150
to look at your pricing,
771
00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:00,960
number one,
772
00:29:01,230 --> 00:29:02,640
we want to figure out our target session,
773
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,960
average, number two,
774
00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:07,650
we want to figure out what products we want to sell.
775
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,310
Number three,
776
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:10,170
we want to price those products.
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00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:11,280
And then number four,
778
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,280
we jump into the art of pricing in which we start
779
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,660
to look at the different ways that we can encourage people
780
00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:22,590
to get up to our target session average with encouraging them
781
00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:25,140
to purchase what we want them to purchase and giving them
782
00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:26,850
what they want as well.
783
00:29:26,850 --> 00:29:30,480
So that is where that art of pricing comes into play.
784
00:29:30,540 --> 00:29:32,580
Now, if you guys are like,
785
00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:33,150
oh my gosh,
786
00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:34,230
totally overwhelmed.
787
00:29:34,260 --> 00:29:34,800
Don't worry.
788
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,280
Don't forget.
789
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,660
I have that free pricing,
790
00:29:36,660 --> 00:29:40,530
training and hair of the dog academy.com/pricing,
791
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,320
jump on over,
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00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,570
feel free to join us lately free.
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00:29:43,930 --> 00:29:46,900
And I also wanted to mention something else.
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And these are the questions that determine if you need to
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update your pricing.
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So you might be like me possible CPA one day,
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maybe in another universe nerd that loves spreadsheets,
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loves numbers and playing with pricing is like one of my
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most favorite things to do in my business.
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So I get,
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I don't know.
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I want to change my pricing a lot.
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I get inspired to like test out different things when I
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see different ways of pricing or get some ideas.
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And I just love to do that,
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but not always the best business decision to be changing your
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pricing all the time.
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So if you are tempted,
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like I am,
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I have a couple questions for you to ask yourself to
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determine if you need to update your pricing.
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Number one,
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are you hitting your target session?
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Average regularly?
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You won't hit it every single session,
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but has an average,
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are you hitting that target session?
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Average, number two,
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are you selling what you want to be selling?
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And then number three are your cost of goods sold averaging
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under 25%.
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It's okay if one sessions,
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30% and one sessions 20%,
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because that means you're averaging 25%.
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So make sure that your cost of goods sold are averaging
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under 25% per session.
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So if you can say yes to those three questions,
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your pricing is fine.
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There is no need to go blow up your pricing and
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start again.
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And if you're getting started with your pricing,
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ask yourself these questions periodically,
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have a client or two check in with those questions,
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have another client,
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or to check in with those questions.
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And then it is going to tell you if you need
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to adjust anything simply by asking these three questions.
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Number one,
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are you hitting that target session average regularly?
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Number two,
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are you selling what you want to be selling?
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And number three are your cost of goods coming in below
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25%. So that is my high-level cliff notes version of pricing,
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man. I love some pricing.
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Thanks so much for joining me again.
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Don't forget to jump back to episode number 79.
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If you want to listen to the series from the beginning
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and the next two weeks,
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we have workflow coming up next week and then pillar six
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is marketing.
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So stay tuned.
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I can't wait to talk to you about those two pillars
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as well,
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have a great week everybody.
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And I'll talk to you soon.
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I'm Nicole and I help portrait photographers to stop competing on price, sell without feeling pushy, and consistently increase sales to $2,000+ per session - which is the fastest path to a 6-figure business. My goal is to help you build a thriving business you love while earning the income you deserve.
