
Are DSLR's Dead with Robby from YM Camera
IN THIS EPISODE:
#195 - DSLRs are dead. Long live the DSLR!
Are DSLRs dead? If you ask Robby Yankush, of YM Camera in Youngstown, Ohio, you're going to hear the straight talk.
They might not be dead yet but we can hear the death knell ringing in the distance.
This week's episode of the Hair of the Dog podcast features a replay of Gear Talk with Robby, a member's only workshop with Robby Yankush, of YM Camera in Youngstown, Ohio.
Robby and I dig into all the hype around mirrorless camera bodies and why they've become the hottest selling thing since … well, since DSLRs came on the scene.
What to listen for
4:25 What Nikon and Canon have stopped developing
13:09 The best mirrorless body for pet photography
20:03 Why you might want to stretch your initial budget
27:42 The difference in dynamic range from DSLR to mirrorless
29:34 Is Godox really all that and a bag of chips
Even though I've made the switch to mirrorless with my R5, I've been holding onto my EF lenses and using Canon's adaptor. However, after this conversation, Robby is making me give serious consideration to taking the leap and going all-in.
What about you? Are you hanging on to your DSLR for a while longer? Or have you dipped your toes into mirrorless?
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Full Transcript ›
Welcome back to The Hair of the Dog podcast. I'm your host, Nicole Begley, and today's conversation is actually a bonus call that we had inside the hair of the Dog Academy, in which I was talking to my friend Robby Yankush from YM Camera up in Youngstown, Ohio. Their website is www.ymcamera.com, and they are a great supplier of all things gear.
So before you go shopping at bn h if you have any questions, like you can get great personalized service from them. But anyway, during our conversation, Robbie and I are diving deep into DSLR versus mirrorless. Is DSLR dead? Oh my gosh. All of the good conversations. We're talking about the latest models of Canon, Nikon, and Sony, what people might wanna start off with.
If you're kind of in the market for a new camera or you're looking to upgrade or you're getting your first camera, then we're also gonna be talking about all of that lighting and as good docs really as good as people think it is. So yeah, all sorts of great conversations. I hope you enjoy this conversation, and next time you need to get some new gear,
definitely check out YM camera to help you with that. They ship all over the United States. All right, without further ado, here's our conversation. Welcome to the Hair of the Dog podcast. If you are a pet photographer, ready to make more money and start living a life by your design, you've come to the right place. And now your host pet photographer,
travel addicts, chocolate martini connoisseur, Nicole Begley. Welcome everybody. Special Bonus Academy call this month where we have Robby from YM Camera joining us from the great town of Youngstown, Ohio, which is right outside of Pittsburgh, not too far from my old stomping rounds, which is how I got connected with Robby. So hey Robby, welcome to the welcome to the Academy Gear Talk Time.
Hey, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Of course, of course. Well, actually, first, Robby, do you wanna tell us a little bit about Y m camera and all that, just good stuff of Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah. So I'm Robby. I'm one of the owners here of YM Camera. We're a full service camera store in northeast Ohio.
We're third generation family business. My grandfather started it in 1951. My father took it over in the eighties, and now he's passing the torch to me. And we sell a lot of cameras. We, we sell Mike Hahn, cannons, Canon, Sony, Fuji, Panasonic, Tamron Lenses, Sigma. And you know, we're, we're really blessed to say that we,
that 2022 was our best year in company history. So we are, the camera industry is good right now for many reasons I'm gonna talk about today. Yeah, we're, we're Northeast Ohio, full service. We sell, we sell a lot of cameras and we hire all photographers here on staff. So it's a lot of fun. And, you know,
we do like about, our business is about 65% in store, but we do a ton of mail order. We got customers from all over the United States, and I'm, I'm our main guy here. I do all our ordering, so all those awesome camera companies I work with Nikon Can and Sony every single day to, you know, bring more gear in and,
you know, I could tell you what gear's hot, what's selling, what's not, and all the ins and outs. I'm, I'm pretty good at megapixels, what, what battery, what, what camera, what takes, how many focusing points. So I can, I can get really in the weeds if you want, where I can tell you,
Hey, this camera's good for you. Perfect. Awesome, awesome. Yeah, I've ordered some stuff from them there. Fantastic. If you guys need any gear, definitely yeah, check it out. Give Gabbi a call. But I know there's probably going to be a lot of discussion today about mirrorless versus D S L R and all of that stuff,
because I mean, that's been the hot topic in the camera industry for about at least the past year. If you guys have questions, specific questions as it comes up, feel free to pop 'em in the chat. We can also, you can also unmute if you have a quick question, you know, that's fine too. This is a super casual space so that you guys can get some of your questions answered.
So don't be shy, but I'm thinking maybe do you wanna kind of start off and just kind of talk about that elephant in the room, mirrorless versus D S L R? Is D S L R dying? Like what's happening? S LR isn't dying. I, I think it's officially dead. I'm sorry if if it's hanging on their 5G mark four,
their DH 50, they're gone. They're, they're like, if you look at go to Cannon's website, go to Nikon's website and you gotta dig deep. They don't wanna sell n no DSLRs anymore. They are completely done. Unfortunately. They, you know, with, if you look at Nikon, they have the DH 50 left, the D six and the D seven 80.
They have three DSLRs left. And if you look at all of them right now, like everything's on sale for their spring savings, their, their mother's day savings event besides the DSLRs, I think eight 50 has like a hundred bucks off or something like that. So it's, you know, we, we started seeing in 2020 in, you know, 20 19, 20 20 when the Z series and,
and the EEO s r from Canon really started, you know, taking hold of the industry and just, it's less and less I get these emails, I'm like, Hey, if you wanna, you know, like a 14 millimeter EF lens, it's like not available anymore. They're gonna transition that to the, you know, muralist RF versions or the Nikon Z versions.
So it seems like they, you know, it, it, it's not a hidden thing that Nikon and Canon, you know, the big two of the DSLRs are definitely out, and it's mainly because Sony, you know, was eating Nikon and Cannon's lunch just with the popularity of their A seven series. So they had like the A seven three, the A seven R three,
they had all the third party support from Nikon or from Sigma and Tamron lenses and the fantastic Sony lenses too. And just seeing with, you know, Nikon's latest launch last week, they announced a new camera, the Nikons Z eight, it, you know, they're, they're fully committed away from the d s dslr. Not saying DSLRs aren't great, not saying probably maybe even the best photographers in the world,
you still use an H 50 in their bag and their five D but you know, there's just gonna be a, a limit on them in where it's like, you know, if someone walks in and hey, I'm getting into photography, maybe want to make some money on it and, you know, make a business or even hobbyist, it's kind of hard not to be like,
well, you know, there's, there's a future with muralists where, you know, DSLRs and the DSLR lenses, everything's out is gonna be out. There's gonna be no one coming out with the D eight 50 mark two or a 5G Mark five now, or one DX four. It's, you know, it's the transitions here. The train has left the station entirely.
Yeah, I think it was last year that Cannon said that they're not gonna do any more development on any EF lenses anymore. Yep. That's, yeah. We will not see another EF lens. We will not see another FM lens from that's like a hundred percent. Now that being said, if you guys are out there and you like maybe have your mirrorless camera and you're like,
man, I would really love to get some lenses the, cuz I'm still shooting almost all of my EF lenses on my R five with an adapter and man, I'm slowly but surely gonna start to move over there with all of the things one less, You know, it's, if you look at the, you know, the price of a RF 24 to 70 or an RF 7,228,
they're expensive. And they're expensive because they're new bills. You know, the mold for your 70 to 200 EF is the same one they've been using since 2003 with your original 7,200. They, they all look the same, they're all the same weight, you know, like they're, but now if you look at the RF 7,200, it's half the weight and super small and tiny and stuff like that.
So that's the reason because it's r and d and then new molds, new technology. That's why the lenses are so expensive. But you know, if you look, when you have your, you know, your, your R five and then you have that adapter that's like this thick, you know, it's like an inch in there and then your lens fits on,
you know, when you remove that space from a, which you go to RF lens right onto an RF body that decreases that flange distance to a really small distance, which gets that glass in that lens so close to that sensor, which is gonna give you the sharpest shots. So you'll see an improvement with auto-focus ability and edged edge sharpness when using native mirrorless glass on a mirrorless body.
Okay, good to know. I didn't realize that was the reason why. Yeah, yeah. Which ironically, my 7,200 EF is sharper on my R five than it was on my one dx. A hundred percent. Yeah. Even with the, So it's, even with the old lens on the new mirrorless camera is a step up from what it was on my dslr.
And I can't even imagine what it'll be once I get the actual rf. I See, I think people have been kind of poisoned their mind cuz I, I'd say, you know what I, here's an R five, you already have the trinity of lenses. Let me sell you this adapter. And like, they immediately go to like, all right,
how much light am I losing? How much autofocus ability am I losing? And I, and I gotta start the conversation and say, no, it's just a, it's, if you look at it, it's just a piece of metal and it just connects that lens to that body. You don't lose any light. So if you are an existing Nikon or Canon shooter and you get that adaptor,
you're not losing any light and you're not losing any focus ability, you're only gaining features. Cuz now all the bodies have stabilization inside the bodies. So they actually work better with the DSLR lenses. Wow. All right. Cool. Fantastic. I'm obsessed with my one dx, or not my one dx, my R five. I used to be obsessed with my one dx.
I love my R five. Definitely. What's, what's the rumor on the, it be the R one is, yeah, So it's, it's kind of weird just comparing where the releases are right now. Yeah. Because it seems that Cannon kind of missed a release cycle alongside Sonia Nikon. So I think they're maybe on a couple month delay. Yeah.
So where Nikon, their current muralist lineup, I'm not gonna go on the whole thing right now is a Z 62 and Z 72 for easy purposes. That's like a D seven 50 for the Z six two or a D eight 10 for the Z 72. And then the Z nine is their flagship, that's their $5,500. That's like your one dx right.
As the integrated battery grip. And they just announced a camera that's coming out next week in between that called the Z eight. And I'll talk more about that later too. But now Canon they have an R six, mark two and an R five. So we're kind of, and then the R three. Yeah. So we're missing one model, either an R five successor or an A model above the R three,
which would be the R one. So I, I would say before the end of the year, we're gonna see at least an R five successor. And by the 2024 Olympics we're gonna see the R one, which is gonna be their $7,000 round number. I made it up, you know, flagship camera, you know these, these companies are so with big glass and big bodies,
they're driven by the Olympics. That's, you will see something by 2024. Yep. Yep. All right. I wanna dive into like the canon bodies and the Nikon bodies and then we can talk about Sony Fuji bit too. But before we get to Nikon with Canon, you know the R six, R five, R three are the three ones out right now?
Yeah, R three is significantly more. Well what are the general price points of those three? Approximately? R R three top. Top head here. I can go on my website. Yeah, but I think it's on 55 or 6,500 bucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know that one was expensive. Yeah, That one's 24 megapixels.
Bunch of focusing points. People were surprised when I, I think they didn't put a like 50 megapixels or 40 into it right After the R five. Yeah. Five. Yeah. Yeah. And then the R five is still, what's that around these days approximately? That's Actually a really good sale right now. Those are 33 99. Okay. Free battery grip through most,
most s a cannon dealers and then the R six two is 24 99. So your 2500 3400 round numbers and and I'm around six for the Other three. Okay. What are as pet photographers who we're talking to now? So we need good focusing, we need like, you know, some good, like the high speed, I'm not technical, you know. Good.
That's good. High speed shutter. What are like, which body I know people shoot with, actually I don't know that many people have R three. So many of us got the R five and we're like, oh I don't need to spend that much more money to get to upgrade right now. But are all three of those bodies do you think kind of,
what are the pros and cons I guess, of why you might wanna go a different one for pet photography? You know, there all three are gonna be more than capable enough to shoot pet photography and it's a decision you have to make between the top two. So you know, hey I have the R five here, the R three is technically gonna focus a little bit faster and give you more frames per second,
but you're having your resolution. So if you're a big printer, big cropper kind of go with the R five. And that's where I think the R one there one we're gonna see later is really gonna answer a lot of questions where, yeah, it's gonna be high resolution and fast ultimate camera, you know the, yeah, the desert island camera if you will.
But it's, so it's, yeah, you're definitely at a crossroads if you want resolution speed where in the R six two, this is gonna be nice cuz it's $2,500. I mean we're all gearheads here. That's not crazy, crazy expensive for a camera. And you're gonna get some of the focusing features from the R, the R three entering at that 24 megapixels.
But you know, if you're, if you're purely speed and you're okay with 24 megapixels on a full frame sensor, you know R three is technically gonna be best in class. We're focusing on speed, but I still think R five is one of the best values and Canon has kind of changed their business model a lot. Now we're seeing significant firmware updates.
Nicole did you up, did you update your No, I need to upgrade mine. I need to update it. So you gotta update it cuz they just added some enhanced focus features and some multi-shot modes that would probably do you pretty well. So if you have a, if you're Nikon, cannon, Fuji, Sony, they have all changed their tune on this.
You have to update your cameras, your firmware, cuz they're adding in features. It used to be like these little minor, if you use this button in, you know, whatever. It'd be like the, the most silly use case scenario fixing with firmer updates. Now the firmer updates do a ton. Yeah. All right. Good to know. Public service announcement.
I'll get it on that. For the R six, the R six full frame or crop sensor, R six two is the latest one. It's placed the original R six. The R six two is full frame. Yep. Okay. All right. Sounds good. So really it's the resolution between the R six and the R five would be the big difference right?
Between those two? Yeah, Yeah, yeah. You know, honestly, and like the R three s an awesome camera, like we haven't sold a ton of those. I thought that would be like a, that's A big price jump for not a, like the R five's such a good camera. That's the hard point. Cannon made too good of a camera with the R five people weren't too happy with it.
People like, you know, I don't know the color out of the camera. The sensor's really good. Yeah. You know, but technically speaking the R three should be faster focusing and just lock on focus faster and better in the low light. But that, that R five is a very special camera. Yeah, it's awesome. All right, cool.
All right, well I don't wanna forget about our Nikon peeps. So I know nothing about Nikon cameras, so sorry guys, I'm not, but no, Nikons in a really good space right now with like kind of four full frame cameras that they're really focusing on. Yeah. With their top ones being Z nine, that's $5,500. The reviews are phenomenal.
45 megapixels, a stack sensor, bunch of frames per second. CF Express card dual. I'll talk memory a little bit later too, but that's, that's, that's the best of the best for Nikon. Like there's, yeah. You know, if you put your native Z glass on there, the lock on time is incredible. The video is really good.
The agronomics and menus are improved. We sell a lot of that camera. That's that for 2021 and 2022. That was our bestselling camera. Now What's the, what's the price point on the Z 9 5500 bucks? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's about, about average for that. You know, the top of the line one. Awesome. Yeah,
It's kinda like, you know, your one DX or if you're coming off for D six that does have the integrated battery grip you can't remove. Yep. So, but, and now Nikon announced last week that, you know, May 26th here, so that's next Thursday. Next Friday they're coming out with the Z eight, which is kind of like the baby brother to the Z nine.
Yeah. Which is gonna be 4,000 bucks. So you're saving $1,500 with it and it's pretty much identical specs to the Z nine, but no integrated battery grip. So it's gonna work more like your R five or your DH 50. Yep. And the pre-orders on that one's been really, really strong. That's gonna be a, an awesome camera. Yeah.
Nice. I know the R five has changed the way I shoot a bit and I actually kind of like it not having that battery grip cuz we wanna get low so I can get like put my camera on the ground and then with that flip out screen, I'm just like, oh, I no longer have to lay on the ground nearly as much as I used to.
It's fantastic. I'm very big on the no integrated battery grips for my shooting. Personally, I, I don't like having the extra bulk of the battery grip. Like that one DX too big for me. I, that's fine. But some people like, I love that grip, I love shooting portrait mode with it and stuff. No, I liked it.
I loved my one DX and I like the big bulk. Yeah. I've got man hands now you can see like my, I a Little, little, I, I like the big thing. Big grip. All right. Christopher has a question though about what gear would you recommend for someone starting pet photography and with under a $1,500 budget? I have a thought here but I want,
I wanna hear your thought. Alright, so there's two really good entry level models so that you have, I'm like all jacked up. You, sorry, still Nikon, Canon, Sony, like Nikon has a Z five, which is full frame mirrorless thousand bucks. And then we can maybe get the adapter and maybe find a order lens to work work for you.
Or I think they have a kit too where you can get like a 24 70 for around 1500. Canon has the R eight, which is right at your budget at 1499 body only. It is full frame, it is mirrorless. And then Sony has the A seven series, which is the A 73, which you could pick up new or used for a really good price usually.
But I would, I would definitely like a hundred percent try to get a muralist body one way or the other. Just, just So you're buying for buying for the future. Yeah. Yeah. So like a used Sony A seven and we'll talk about Sony here in a bit too, would be a really good Yeah. Yeah. And I would almost say too,
like if there's any way to scrape together the extra thousand bucks to at least just jump in at like the R six level, I think that camera is gonna serve you better for a longer time. Whereas some of those really entry level cameras you can outgrow with the low light settings or the Yes. Way harder to capture action and things like that than the ones that are able to focus a little bit better.
So Yeah. Yeah. The only thing, the thing I kinda hate is I do get a lot of young, younger people in here. People want you to start out, and I talk a lot about buying in the right direction. You don't wanna spend money in the wrong direction cuz you're gonna spend money twice if you have to replace that body. And then you're buying lenses that are only work for that body that won't work for muralists.
It it just like, you know, I used to be the flip like hey, get a cheaper body, get a really good lens. But it's kind a difficult crossroads cuz we're seeing the exited DSLRs where you want to get a muralist body that's just straight up so you can invest in that mirrorless glass sooner than later. Yeah, no that's good. Good call for sure.
All right, so there are a couple Sony people out there give us the hats on on their lineup. Yeah. Sony eclipsed, you know, like, like my shop traditionally, not nationally at all, where I did Nikon Canyon and Sony like this past year, it's been Sony number two or number months. Oh I don't love Sony. I feel like,
I don't know, maybe it's just I've been a can shooter way too long. Like it feels just not native and just like I, I can't even, I can't even handle it. Yeah. Like, and it's kinda funny you said that cuz they definitely responded to that. Yeah. Cause they, with their newest releases, they completely redid the menu systems.
Okay. The menu feels a lot better. Like I always joked around that Sony, five years ago they were technically the best cameras, but they're were made for nerdy guys like the, you know, like someone who really loved diving into the menus and, but now they're, they're really good. Like their flagship is called the A one. Yep. And doesn't have an integrated battery grip.
$6,500. And where Sony wins right now is they have the most complete system. They have more lenses than Nikon and Cannon native to the system. So, you know, they, they have options. If you want a Sigma art lens, you can get it native to Sony. If you want a Tamara on telephoto or a wide angle, you can get it for Sony.
That's what they're really doing well is partnering with those third party companies. And they've, they have a really fleshed out lens line right now and they're doing like a bunch of trade-in promotions nationally, which is really cool. But right now, just to kinda give you the high level three models to look at would be the A one as their flagship that's gonna be super fast,
50 megapixels and that one checks a lot of boxes. Then you got the A seven R five s and so they're on the fifth iteration of their r their R stands for resolution and that's a 60 megapixel camera really quick. And I think that one's around 38 99. And then in their competitive space, the under $3,000 category, they got the A 74, which is $2,500 33 megapixels full frame.
And that one is definitely the best selling camera. Like for Sony, just by larger far, you get a lot of camera for 2,500 bucks. Yeah. I get a, everyone comes in and says, hey, I, I'm looking at the Sony A seven A 74, the, the Canon R 62 and the Nikon Z six too. That's like the,
that's the three. You got it. You know, you, you gotta choose between right now. Love it. You mentioned the Tamarin and Sigma lenses. Yeah. How are those lenses on say like Nikon Canon? Like are they, have they been working well with these different mirrorless systems or like are they starting to change their lenses to be working better with mirrorless versus dsl?
Dslr? Great question. So Tamron, if you have existing Tamron lenses and signal lenses, you can actually buy this thing that plugs into the computer that will update the lens to work better via those adapters. Huh. And then Is it like updating a firmware on it? Yeah, you can actually update the firmware on a lens now it's nuts. Oh Wow.
That's so much firmware updating. Oh It's, I know it's important now. It's like another part of the Yeah. More steps to do. But, and then Sigma is starting to make lenses for Nikon and so is Tamron. We haven't seen any muralist, tamron or Sigma lenses just yet, but they are switching out. They're, you know, they're gonna bend with the market and start making more lenses for Nikon and Canon for sure.
That'll be negative. Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Interesting. Ashley, Ashley has a question about the Z eight. Do you think it'll have a better subject tracking system than the Z six two? A hundred percent? Yep. Yeah, go ahead and look at any review of Z nine versus Z six two. And if you're gonna see that it's better.
Cause the tracking system from the Z from the Z nine is going right in Z eight and it's gonna be a little bit updated too. We're actually having a touch and try. We're have a Nikon in June 1st. I'm excited. We're, we're doing like a launch party for the Z eight, but no fun. That's gonna be really cool. Any of you guys near Cleveland?
Youngstown, go check it out. I love it. Touch and try. Angie has a question too about landscape travel photography when she's traveling she doesn't always want, wanna lug your gear? What's your question, Angie, about it? Is it Photography? When I'm traveling but don't always lug my gear with me. I mean that's a kind of cool thing.
You know, even if you buy like the R five Z Z 62 or a Sony a seven, I mean they're technically full sized bodies but they make like pancake lenses or little short zoom lenses, like especially Sony, they have this one, it's called the A seven C. So if you've been like curious about Sony mirrorless, that's a really small compact body that's not like,
it's like the size of a foam but really kind of obviously thicker and they have some smaller pancake lenses for that. And then Fuji's a very good option. We don't do a ton of Fuji sales. I stock every camera by them, but seems like 90% of my, my sales and what we're seeing the market is full frame mirrorless. But Fuji's a good option for travel cameras too.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Fuji has some, some nice little ones. Actually Fuji has that, what is it, their full frame? Not full frame. It's More than Frame. They're, yeah. Oh my god, what's the term for that one? Is it their gfx? Is that what it is? Gfx? Yeah, you're good. Yeah.
You got it. Yeah. Yeah. What's that one? What's the term of that kind of camera that I'm looking for? That I has? Media Format. Thank you. Yes. I'm like, it's some kind of format. It's a, it is. Yeah. So that's a larger sensor I think for anything high. Like those are good for like architecture commercial jobs and stuff like that.
Yeah. I don't know how well that's gonna be tracking some cute pups and stuff like that, but Yeah. Yeah, my friend Craig from photography in New Zealand, he's a Fuji Ambassador so he has a gfx and yeah it, it does not work for any sort of motion or action but, but he does create some ridiculous things for portraits. But those are Cool cameras.
Definitely. Yeah, I think those are, you know, I think those are still, they, they've had three or four models but I still think they're a little bit in the infancy still. Yeah. Like I think they're still really getting, I don't know, I don't know how well full frame is just it, it it, that's like 90% of the market share.
It's just, Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say they're probably not, I mean the, the amount of people buying medium format is probably way smaller percentage than people buying the normal free full frame cameras. All right, cool. What else? Well actually let me ask you this question too. Dsa, D E S L R versus mirrorless with like dynamic range capture is,
have you seen a difference? Is it better on the mirrorless or a wider range? You know, I, I think it is better on the mirrorless but not because it's mirrorless but because they're just improving the image sensors. Yeah. Like that's the, like that's gonna be the main main point about it. Especially in the Sony route. Like I don't know if you've ever tried to edit a sunny file,
it's like cake batter. You could do whatever you want with that thing. Like the the, if you need to pull highlights or cover shadows, like they're, the dynamic range on some of their cameras is just absolutely nuts. Same with the icon. And then Cannon was kind of the ones that didn't have the crazy dynamic range. Yeah. Where if you did need,
you've got clipping or pole shadows. But now with your R five, like you probably see such a big difference between five D files and one DX files and that beautiful raw file out of the R five. Yeah, for sure. I mean it still gets pretty noisy sometimes depending. I actually just had a shoot two weeks ago at the Raptor Center for a marketing campaign that they're doing and the Raptor Center is all in like deep woods and so it was dark and I'm capturing flying bird,
so I need like fast shutter speed man on one noise reduction to the rescue for those suckers. And didn't they just put a de-noise thing in light room to two like Topaz or something or ai, I don't know. They might have updated a little bit that on one, the on one software. I think it was like 60 bucks and just like buy once it was,
it's amazing. Awesome. Unbelievable. So if anybody needs some denoising, check it out. What, what other questions do you guys have out there for gear? It doesn't all have to be bodies. It could be some other lenses and or lighting. What kind of lighting do you guys carry at ym? You guys Do God docs and all those? We do God docs.
Yeah. We used to do like pro photo and like Cannon flashes and Nikon flashes. Man, I can't give that stuff away right now. They're like, no, I'll give you that $179 GODO slash that's rechargeable and wireless. I'm like, yeah, it's kind hard to, those are really good. So you sell a ton of God docs. That's,
and like I always look at like pro photo and like, and you know, like I, I have room for it but I'm just not like getting that many asks. Yeah. So I probably should bring a Vida Pro photo in cause that is a premium product. That's the Rolex. Yeah. But that go doc stuff. It it, it's the real deal we saw kind of that.
Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. If somebody's looking for like a Go docs, like a strobbe to use outside that's powerful enough to, you know, overpower the sun a bit but it's still portable enough to take with, is there a certain model that you recommend? Yeah, I really like the 8,400 Pro. It's 400 WA seconds. They also have a baby version of it called the 8200 200 Wat seconds and that's our,
our best selling flash product because it's $300. It's like the size of a flash and works perfectly off camera. So that one's really cool. That's awesome. Do those have TTL or are they Yep, all ttl when they, you can put a remote commander on top of your camera. Yeah. And then you actually don't have to buy for the system for the mono likes,
the battery powered ones. You just buy the triggers. So if you have a Cannon and Nikon for some reason. Yeah, they're all just in, you know, you can power them from any trigger. Oh nice. Okay. High speed sync on the God docs Too. High speed sync. Eight, 8,000 of a second. Wow. How about flash duration?
How's that compare with like the pro photo? So pro photo has a pretty quick flash duration for like stop, You're asking me. You were asking me so many softballs and stuff like that. Like 1.3 second flash duration me here. The flash duration. Ok, Sorry. Sorry. I was doing so good. I don't need the Actual like a, I'm just wondering if it's fairly compatible.
Bearable very Quick. Okay. Alright. Recycle speed. All right, we're gonna keep on going. No, yeah, I've heard a lot of people, I haven't used the good docs. I've had some pro photos from ages ago that still work. Great. So obviously still using those. Yeah, just use them. Use those doc. Yeah. Yeah.
But I've heard so many people really enjoyed their God doc gear. Yeah. Oh, Jess is asking a Cannon question here. Do you think if they release a new version of the R five they'll discontinue the original like they did for the R six. So, so actually the R six mark one is still available. I think we have one in stock.
We, cause there's a three, $400 Delta. So the R six I think is round numbers $2,100. The R six two s 2,500, they'll keep that R five around these camera companies aren't discontinuing cameras like they used to. It's, it's really weird. Sony, you can buy a camera that came out in like 2013. I'm like, why? Really?
Yeah, like, and you can buy the original Z six, which came out in 2017. So they'll still keep 'em in the lineup. But they, they, they keep the pricing very specific. They don't want, if if the new camera's $3,000, they're not gonna take that old model to 1200 bucks. Yeah, I know. They wanna be like,
hey you can save three or 400 bucks just to get rid of the existing inventory. But we don't want to shy new, new customers away from the new releases. So you'll see there's some like definitely some, you know, some, some ba some baseball there with how they do the numbers and stuff like that with discontinuing and discounting order models. Yeah.
All right, cool. Good, good, good. Oh Lawrence asking too, we're talking body still, what things that you like dislike about the Z six two Z six two s A great camera, you know, compared to the Z eight or Z nine, the focusing system are gonna be a little more robust on their flagship models of course. Cuz they're 2000,
3000, $4,000 more expensive. 62 is one of our, that's our best selling Nike on Camerara though, other than the Yeah, we, no, we sell more of those in the Z nine. Just purely a price point then. Yeah, right. Those things are like 1700 bucks body only right now. The value is insane on that. How is their focusing for things like a running dog?
Really good. They like, you know, the original C6 and seven, some people did have some issues. Yeah. You're using Native Glass in the Zer and you're on the latest firmware. Seems like they're doing a really, really good job. And, and they do have, I auto focus four dogs, which is really nice. Oh nice. And no,
the six two s incredibly good value gets you in the Z series. And it's like if you've been holding out and you like have a D seven 50, that's the clear upgrade path would be the Z six two. Hmm. Okay. All right. I was wondering too, if you could speak a little bit about gray market cameras and what that means and what people need to be aware of.
Yeah, definitely. So if it's, you know, like, you know, my big thing is if you walk in my store, you're not gonna pay or you shop a mine, you're not gonna pay a penny more with me than you will with b and h or you know, that's the thousand pounding grid in the room. They're a 6 billion company.
They sell more cameras than Amazon and all the other camera scores combined. And that's, that's that, that is what it is. Same, you know, same with Arama, same with am some Amazon sellers, like if it comes from Amazon Direct, we're all gonna be the same price. So if you're looking at Z 62, you should be paying 16 96, 95.
If you see it through a dollar less, something's up, they, because you are not allowed to sell that camera online for that below that price. So what that means is they're getting it from not Nikon u s A, they're getting it from Nikon, India and Nikon Japan. And they're illegally importing the models. So they're, it carries no warranty and the camera will not be repairable for any amount of money within the United States.
So if it's worth saving 200 bucks and you're never gonna drop it, never gonna break it never needs service and may, may not work with future firmer updates, do it. But I I always say do not like you can call Nikon and you can call Canon and Sony. You can ask, Hey, is this seller who's selling you this price? Are they gray market?
They'll tell you. So they're stay away from Gray market if the deal's too good to be true, it's too good to be true for sure. Yeah. Yeah. They, because those, all the manufacturers basically fix the price of it has to be this. So if you're seeing it outside of that it is, it is not legit. Yeah, I know a couple people have accidentally like they just didn't know.
It's something that you don't know when You're deal, like you just, Why would I pay more? I just, it's, it just, it sucks cuz I've had people in tears. Oh hey dropped my 72 28. We send it in Nikon just sends it back with a letter saying this is not repairable in the United States. Wow. A door stop. It sucks.
You have to like fly to India and get it repaired there. Yeah, Exactly. Oh, oh man. Your website, is it just ym camera.com? Yep. Ym camera.com. You know we're, we're a smaller company so we, but we try to keep everything on there. Would you have a really cool texting feature on there, which goes great to my phone and other people's phones.
So if you have any questions, please. You know, we're like, we don't have the resources as the b and H website. We actually we're on B and h more than you guys because we, we use them for our pricing models and stuff. But just call us or text us or email us. We're really responsive like that and can help you out.
Awesome. Yeah, you guys, I've bought some gear from Robbie and the YM crew and they're fantastic and it arrives sometimes faster than bnh or any of the other ones. So Fantastic. Definitely highly recommend. I think that's it. Anything else you wanna say, Robbie, before we wrap up? No, just, you know, we'll get your, you know,
what camera have and we're thinking about going mirrorless and kinda look at the lenses out there. Like Nikon just released 85 12. Canon has like a really nice 1 35 18 If you can get that one. Do you have that one in stock? I text me. I got you. I don't, I I don't have it in stock, but I gotta lead on one.
I think it's, but you know, you're, you, we talk so much with the bodies, but we actually don't talk enough about how good the glass is and like yeah, it, it's, they're a pretty panty for sure. But the image quality on the new lenses, like they change that lens mount on those new cameras for a reason. They're gorgeous.
Those lenses awesome. It's so ridiculous. I mean, and it was just crazy my evolution of starting to shoot with that R five with my old lenses and the adapter and I was still like, oh my god, these are better than they were on the one dx. But then when I would teach with Charlotte, Charlotte Reeves from Unleashed Education that we teach the barks together,
I would look at hers cuz she had all the native lenses. She sold all her stuff and got all the, the new RF lenses and I was just like, what? Shut the door. It's amazing, you know, cause Nikon before, back in the DSLR days, it always seemed like the Nikons were just a little bit sharper than Cannon. But Cannon had like the most delicious,
amazing color. So it was like, mm, fine. I want my color. I love my cannon. But now you've got like the color on the cannon and the sharpness with these new lenses. It's Well I know, I'm like, like you should just, they're 51 2 by Canon. It's like crazy. It's really good. And one, I'll leave it on those two.
Can users check out that 28 to 70 F two to F two Zoom? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Oh my gosh. All right. This has been so, so good. If you guys wanna go check out all the stuff, Robbie can help you out with ym camera.com. If you guys have questions about gear, don't be shy reaching out over there.
And yeah, thanks Robbie for taking the time to chat. Chat, you know, tech nerd stuff with us. I do this all day. This is why I love it. This is fun. These are right in the wheelhouse. But yeah, it falls on Instagram. We do a bunch of fun giveaways and stuff like that, A bunch of film and you can DM us.
And if you follow us too, we love like posting people on our stories and like dogs and stuff. So please fall us on Instagram. That's do a lot of fun stuff, but Awesome Is it. Don't Hesitate, call me, email me if you ever have any questions about any gear and you're like, what's going on? Just I, I'll help you out for sure.
All right, perfect. And it's Instagram's YM camera. Yep. All right. Perfect. Awesome. All right, thanks everybody for joining us. And Robbie, thanks again for being here, and I'll talk to you guys soon. All right. Appreciate it. Cool. Thank you. Bye Everybody. Thanks for listening to the Hair of the Dog podcast.
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