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What You Need to Know to Partner with Rescues with Courtney Bryson
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What You Need to Know to Partner with Rescues with Courtney Bryson

IN THIS EPISODE:

#162 - Courtney Bryson has seen this story too many times in our Hair of the Dog Circle community: A pet photographer hoping to partner with an animal-rescue group reaches out to them, and gets totally skunked. Emails are ignored; offers to help are declined. What gives?

This week, Courtney—whose rescue involvement led to her pet photography career—gives us the scoop on getting started working with animal rescues.  

What To Listen For:

  • Why pet photogs strike out when looking for animal-rescue partners
  • How to get connected if you don't have connections
  • Where to snoop to make sure a rescue is legit 
  • Why sometimes donating less is more
  • The single best predictor of whether a rescue will promote your project

If you've been thinking of partnering with a rescue, or if you've struck out in your attempts to do so, be ready to take notes this week!

 


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Hey there.

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Welcome back to the Hair of the Dog podcast.

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I'm your host,

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Nicole Begley.

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In today's conversation,

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it's for all of you out there that maybe wants to

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do a little charitable marketing,

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that wants to maybe volunteer with rescues,

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that wants to donate to silent auctions,

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that wants to do something in your business,

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partnering with men,

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one of the many rescues in your area,

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but maybe you aren't sure how to reach out to them,

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or maybe you've tried to work with them and it didn't

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go as well as you had hoped.

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Well, today we have fellow pet photographer and fellow rescue volunteer

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and previous team member Courtney Bryson,

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who is going to be breaking down all of the details

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for us about how we can best approach different rescues,

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what we can do,

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what rescues need from us,

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how to know what the right rescue to work with is.

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Just all of the things.

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All of the things,

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all of the questions that you have had about working with

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rescues hopefully will be answered here in this episode.

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So stay tuned.

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Welcome to The Hair of the Dog podcast.

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If you are a pet photographer ready to make more money

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and start living a life by your design,

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you've come to the right place.

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And now your host,

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pet photographer,

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travel addict,

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chocolate martini connoisseur,

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Nicole Begley.

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to the Hair of the Dog podcast.

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I'm your host Nicole Begley,

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and today we have a repeat guest,

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Courtney Bryson from CM Bryson Photography,

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and we're talking all about rescues today.

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So Courtney,

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welcome back to the podcast.

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Hey, glad to be here.

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Awesome. You guys might remember Courtney from a previous podcast.

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She was back on the podcast back in episode number 41

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where we were talking about how she found success in her

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business, living in a small town of only 800 people.

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And we also learned of your previous experience in the wedding

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gown industry,

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which was fascinating.

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So you guys have to go listen to that episode if

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you want more details on that.

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But today we're talking about rescues.

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And Courtney,

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you're super involved with rescues.

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Tell us a little bit about how you got involved with

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them and kind of what that looks like.

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Yeah, so I'm only a dog photographer because I got involved

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in rescue.

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Originally. We decided that we wanted to adopt a dog and

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we wanted to find a special needs dog.

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And so in 2009 we adopted BOCES who was a deaf

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Boston Terri,

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and kind of got sucked into this world of rescue.

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From there we were foster homes,

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we ran events,

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we fundraised.

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And then in 2014 we actually founded,

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my wife and I founded a rescue for specifically Boston Terris

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that are medically fragile or have special needs tied in with

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all of that.

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We run a dog food program and we distribute about 15,000

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pounds of food a week with that.

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And I serve as the president of the board of our

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county's humane society and did a short stent as their director

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of operations for about two years.

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Oh wow.

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Well, two years is not short.

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That's that's that's an actual stint.

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Yeah. That's awesome.

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I didn't realize you were involved in that many different aspects

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of it.

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That's fantastic.

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Yeah. Wow.

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So where do you even wanna start?

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Do we wanna start with like if,

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if people want to start working with rescues,

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what that looks like?

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And we could talk about like kind of finding a rescue

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and start to go from there.

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But is there anything else that you want to get across

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to people before we dive into all of these details of

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what this world kind of looks like and how to kind

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of get started involved getting involved with this world?

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Yeah, so I actually originally reached out to,

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Cause I've seen in the circle community and in various other

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groups, people getting really frustrated trying to work with a rescue

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or find a rescue or get them to respond.

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And I think until you've kind of been on the other

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side, it's hard to know where they're coming from.

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Like it seems like a no brainer.

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Oh, this person wants to help me raise money or take

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great photos of my dogs.

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Why aren't they all kind of like saying Yes.

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Great. And so I kinda wanted to talk a little bit

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about, you know,

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what it looks like on the other side of rescue and

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kind of now being on both sides of the coin as

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the photographer raising money for a rescue and as the person

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running a rescue.

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And then as a photographer,

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how do you find a good rescue?

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How do you know who's going to help you promote whatever

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event that you're running so that it's successful for both of

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you? Cause that's really the ultimate goal,

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Right? Right.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Perfect. All right,

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so do you just wanna dive into that or is there

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anything there you wanna touch on first?

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I can dive in.

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So all Right,

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so let's,

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yeah, let's dive in with with yeah,

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figuring out where to find a rescue and all of that

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kind of stuff.

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So go ahead and take it away and yeah,

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I'm excited to,

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excited to dive into all this.

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So kinda the first thing when you look at wanting to

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work with a group is finding a rescue that's gonna be

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a good fit for you.

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And there's so many kind of different variations of what rescue

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looks like.

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So it's kind of like if you can kind of create

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a list of what things that you're interested in and what

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rescues touch on those things,

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I think you're gonna be more successful in the long run.

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You can choose something like an all species rescue.

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They kind of do dogs,

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cats, Guinea pigs,

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whatever. Or there are like species specific,

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so people that just do dogs or just do horses.

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There's breed specific kind of like a,

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what I do with the Boston Terri Rescue.

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We really just do Boston's and the occasional Frenchy.

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And then kind of even expanding out from there.

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There are people that specialize in international rescue,

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like I know Nicole you've adopted from rescues that in import

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out of Puerto Rico.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Zoe was from the SADO project in Puerto Rico and little

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Cammy here is from the British Virgin Islands,

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but she ended up already coming through a local rescue here

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in Charlotte.

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But the island dogs have my heart for sure.

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Yeah. So like if that's a thing that you love,

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that's a place you can look.

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And there are rescues that work really exclusively with the dog

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meat trades out of China or out of the Middle East.

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Oh yeah.

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And like Travis and his galagos and The,

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Even when I was in,

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yeah, when I was in Spain last time in 2016,

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I ended up bringing home two galagos for our local Greyhound

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rescue who was a client of mine.

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And they were going and I was like,

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Oh, I'm gonna be in Barcelona.

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I can bring dogs home.

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They're like,

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Oh my gosh,

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yes please.

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And so long story short,

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my like really,

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really good friends adopted those two dogs,

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which is awesome cuz I still get to see them.

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I'm like their in now.

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Cool. That's awesome.

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I love it.

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Yeah, so there's international,

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there's like regional,

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so like my county's Humane Society really focuses just on a

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regional area and then there's like almost like hyper local,

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you'll have like city shelters or city rescues.

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So if you are targeting,

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like if you only work in a certain city,

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that's usually your bigger cities.

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New York has a couple,

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Chicago Baltimore has a really cool rescue organization for just the

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dogs in the city.

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Oh, interesting.

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And then you have to decide if you wanna work with

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private rescues or kind of government funded rescues and shelters because

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everybody needs help,

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but where do you fit in?

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And then there's also rescues like just for senior dogs or

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just for pets with medical needs.

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So when you kinda look at that list and figure out

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what you're interested in,

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then you can Google rescues that are gonna fit kind of

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an interest you already have.

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Yeah, no that's fantastic.

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Is there any resource out there other than Google to try

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to find some of these smaller rescues?

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Cuz there are so many rescues around,

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didn't know if you had any other advice other than just

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go ahead and start hitting that Google and start looking.

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Yeah, I would say Google Pet Finder,

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which is run by PetSmart,

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but they have almost all of the rescues are gonna list

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their animals there.

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Yeah. So you might have to pretend like you're Searchie for

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a dog,

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but they'll provide a list for you of rescues in your

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area. And spoiler alert,

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you might end up adopting a dog in the process,

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but that's a risk that comes with working north rescues.

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Yeah. And there's also rescue me.org,

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which is another one that will list out by state all

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of the different rescue organizations.

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Okay. Oh cool.

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Awesome. That's great.

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All right,

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so once you start to look at these different rescues,

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what's kind of,

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what's the next step?

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How do you start to figure out how to reach out

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to them or what what,

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what do you do next step?

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Do you kind of make your first list?

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Yeah, so I think if you kind of have a short

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list of,

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you know,

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seven or eight rescues that you might be interested in working

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with, then it's about do you know anybody that's connected there?

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Like do you have a friend or a client or your

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vet or whoever that's either adopted a dog or worked with

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them in the past or volunteered because that personal connection is

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gonna be the easiest way to get you in touch with

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the right people.

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At Rescue,

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A lot of your rescues are just run by volunteers,

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so no one's getting paid and that means you have another

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full-time job to pay for your volunteer work.

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So they're really busy and Yeah,

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overwhelmed with people contacting them.

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Yeah, I think that's probably the same whether you're looking at

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a really small local rescue where it is just volunteers,

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there's no paid staff.

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It might be one main person with a couple volunteers,

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or even those bigger city shelters,

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they're still underfunded.

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Like the amount of work that they have to do for

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the number of people they have do the job often does

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not match up.

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So I think the common theme is everyone there is really

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busy and really overwhelmed.

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Yeah. And I think the biggest key there is just finding

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some kind of even small connection where you can ask for

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that introduction.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's just gonna move you up the list so much faster.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And you guys would be amazed at how many people,

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like how easy it is usually to find that connection.

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If you start asking,

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if you ask your clients,

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if you ask even your friends,

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if you ask just like a local Facebook post,

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I mean you could even potentially,

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I would imagine if there was one you really wanted to

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work with,

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like if there was a local,

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you know,

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we have Dogs of Charlotte kind of Facebook group could even

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post in there of,

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hey, I'm looking to get in touch with someone at this

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shelter. Does anybody have any,

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you know,

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connections or something,

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You know,

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there's, the internet has made it a lot easier to hopefully

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connect with them.

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Actually one other way that would probably be a,

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a helpful way to connect too,

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if there that rescues on social media is,

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you know,

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interacting with,

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excuse me,

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their social media and then a direct message there to that

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social media person that maybe to ask who to contact for

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certain things.

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That might be a a good way too.

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Yeah. And I think if you start kind of interacting with

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them on social media,

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then the people that are running the page start to recognize

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your name.

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So when you send them a direct message like,

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Oh, I remember that person.

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It's almost like when we're marketing for clients,

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like we just wanna be the name that comes up all

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the time.

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So when they start thinking pet photography,

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you are the name that comes up.

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All right.

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So some other ways to potentially connect.

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You mentioned maybe local businesses might be a good option.

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How does that work?

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So a lot of times vets are going to be seeing

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a lot of rescue dogs and your rescue is gonna have

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a pretty good contact with them.

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So ask your vet if they work with a rescue,

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ask where you get your dog food from,

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if they work with a rescue groomers.

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Those are all just kind of another way to find that

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personal connection so you can get that introduction.

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Perfect. Perfect.

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What about kind of vetting our potential rescues?

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Is there anything that you should kind of look up to

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make sure that,

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Yeah, I don't wanna say it's a legit rescue,

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but you know,

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to make sure that it's a a,

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a non-profit that you want to definitely partner with,

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Right? Because you wanna associate your name with their names,

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you kinda wanna make sure everybody is above board.

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So you can actually check on the IRS's website,

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just just irs.gov

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and all of your 5 0 1 C3 rescues have a

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specific number,

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an EIN number from the irs.

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You can search by that number or by their name and

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check their status.

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Like are they filing the tax returns like they're required to?

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It doesn't give you a lot more information than that,

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but at least too let's you know like,

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are they still active?

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Are they still kind of following all of the rules?

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Right. Right.

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And then other places that you can check too is like

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the rescues website itself,

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Like is it something that looks like it's been updated pretty

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regularly? Do they talk about any other partnerships or events that

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they do?

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And sometimes if you can find out what other businesses they've

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partnered with,

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it'll give you a really good idea if your ideal client

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is the same as that other business is ideal client.

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And this is probably a great rescue to talk to.

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That's a good point.

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That's a good point.

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Okay, what else?

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What about social media?

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Yeah, so social media really changed the rescue game.

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So I was kind of getting into rescue right as social

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media was taking off and it went from having to tote

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all of your dogs to different stores to find adopted.

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Like we used to see 'em at Pet Smart and things

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right to being able to connect with people all over.

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So a lot of your kind of really involved rescues are

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gonna be really involved in social media.

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So they're gonna be posting pretty regularly.

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You're gonna get a feel for the way that they post,

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the way that they promote their events and partnerships and dogs

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and see if that feels like a fit for you.

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And you can also then kind of get a feel too

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for how often are they posting other partnership things.

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If you look and you kind of scroll through and you

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see that they did this one thing with the dog groomer

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and they posted about it one time and you never heard

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anything else about it or see anything else posted,

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that might be kind of a red flag to consider before

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you move forward knowing that they're gonna be a great partner

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as far as promoting the event that you're putting on together.

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Right, right.

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Okay. So you've scoped out your rescues,

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you made your shortlist,

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you started to scope out your,

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you know,

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their IRS still nonprofit,

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they have the,

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the proper designation,

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they have a website,

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they're on some social media,

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maybe they're doing some of the partnerships.

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Maybe you found one that you're like,

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man, I really,

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really kind of wanna work with that one.

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It seems really aligned with me.

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They're on the irs,

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they have a website.

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Maybe they're not real active on social media or maybe they

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don't have a lot of other partnerships they've done maybe because

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they're a smaller or newer rescue.

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Is there maybe another way that you could kind of scope

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out? Like do you ever kind of ask around to just,

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hey, has anyone worked with this rescue or kind of see

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if any of your connections have any interactions with them to

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kind of get the the word on the street of how

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Yeah. Of how that particular rescue operates.

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And I think you're,

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you're exactly right,

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kind of talking to your connections because most of us,

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even if we don't have a huge group of friends,

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you know,

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that we like chat with every day,

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we have a pretty big network of people.

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We kind of know some of those people have probably interacted

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with rescues somewhere so they've adopted or they've fostered or they've

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volunteered or they've transported or whatever it is.

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If you can figure out who has been involved with the

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rescue that you're interested in asking them is the best way

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to kind of get a feel for how responsive is,

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is this rescue,

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you know,

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is this the right vibe that you're looking for?

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Gotcha. Yeah,

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no, that's really good advice.

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All right,

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so we have our list,

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we have our short list.

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We're ready,

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we're ready to contact them.

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It's time.

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Yeah. This is where most people kind of get a little

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paralyzed or they just wait for like some perfect introduction to

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materialize, but like we need to go after like creating these

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introductions and getting in touch with them.

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So how the heck do people start to do this?

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Yeah, so I think that cold calls and emails are almost

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never going to work.

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You know,

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a lot of times these rescues are just inundated.

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Personal story.

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We have one person that has contacted our rescue and she

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sends us the same copy paste email like six times a

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week to work with her.

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She sells wine and she wants to give us a 20%

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thing. And it's just so overwhelming because there's nothing on there

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that it's nothing about how she knows us.

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She doesn't know anything about the work that we're doing.

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And now I just delete it because I get the same

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email all the time.

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Oh my gosh.

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Six times a week or like even six times a month

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is a little much.

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I'm all for following up,

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but not the same exact thing every the time.

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And like you can tell you're a carbon copy,

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it's me and like 45 other rescue groups.

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Yeah. Yep.

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So you don't wanna be that person,

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you'll just kind of get buried in the inbox.

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Yep. And we,

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yeah, we talked a little about,

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about using your network,

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so asking for that personal connection.

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But then,

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okay, so maybe If you don't have,

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Okay. Yeah.

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Okay. Yep.

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Other ways to kind of start getting in touch with them

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in a way that doesn't feel salesy is to start kind

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of interacting with them.

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So we talked a little bit about interacting with their social

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media, commenting on things that they post,

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sending a DM where it makes sense,

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like if they've posted something that you found valuable,

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just to start making it so that your name is one

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that they recognize so that when you write them pitching whatever

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it is that you're getting ready to pitch them as your

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idea, they're gonna click and open it because they know who

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you are.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean this goes for if you guys wanna make connections

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with for profit businesses,

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really with anyone or anything,

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you are making this little bit of connection beforehand.

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And thankfully if you're going to be making these connections with

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rescues, they're likely posting a lot of really cute animals.

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So it's really easy to have cute comments about really cute

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animals. It's not like you're like trying to Yeah,

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yeah. Make a connection with an accountant that's like,

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Oh, that new talks law is fantastic.

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Oh yes.

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I love it.

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I love it,

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I love it.

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All right.

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So that is definitely helpful.

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What else?

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What else if you don't have it personal connection,

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Now that the world is kind of opening back up,

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you can also do things in person.

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So you can attend an event just as a guest.

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Like are they doing an adoption event?

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Are they gonna be at a festival in town?

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Where can you go to start talking to people that are

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involved in this rescue?

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Even better,

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you can offer to volunteer at one of those.

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And a lot of it is not hard volunteer work.

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They might need someone,

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if they're gonna be at their festival in town to come

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and walk the dogs so that they get a chance to

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get out of their little crate and wander around the festival

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or go to the bathroom.

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And having people that will do that is super valuable for

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the rescues.

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Yeah. Yep.

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Yep. One of the things that I've done that help me

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make a lot of connections with different rescues is donate to

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their gala.

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They have a fundraiser,

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especially the bigger ones that have a big gala donating to

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their silent auction.

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And then you,

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you know,

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are connected with their development person.

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Sometimes they're development slash marketing person's the same person.

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Sometimes it's different,

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depends on the size of the organization.

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But that's a great way for them to get to know

526
00:20:14,750 --> 00:20:18,030
you, for you to also hopefully get a great client into

527
00:20:18,030 --> 00:20:20,190
your business and then they make some money.

528
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,510
So, you know me,

529
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:22,630
I love charitable marketing.

530
00:20:22,630 --> 00:20:23,790
It's like my favorite go-to.

531
00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:24,910
Yeah. But that's a,

532
00:20:24,910 --> 00:20:27,790
a great way to make those connections to along the event

533
00:20:27,790 --> 00:20:29,990
space and Kinda speaking about donating,

534
00:20:30,550 --> 00:20:32,710
becoming a donor that's a regular donor,

535
00:20:33,230 --> 00:20:36,270
even if it's like a $5 a month thing for a

536
00:20:36,270 --> 00:20:36,830
couple of months,

537
00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:38,150
because that's again,

538
00:20:38,150 --> 00:20:42,510
gonna put your name in front of the bright people every

539
00:20:42,510 --> 00:20:45,270
month. And a lot of times,

540
00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:49,200
like the big gala donations that we do are great and

541
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,200
they kind of get you in the door,

542
00:20:50,420 --> 00:20:54,320
but that's a once a year thing and you're donating alongside,

543
00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:54,880
you know,

544
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,440
50 to a hundred other businesses and people.

545
00:20:57,900 --> 00:20:59,640
Yep. Whereas if you are,

546
00:20:59,740 --> 00:21:00,240
you know,

547
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,920
setting up an automatic $5 PayPal coming out,

548
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,010
you're not really having to do anything.

549
00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:08,930
But once a month they're getting a notification that says your

550
00:21:08,930 --> 00:21:11,890
name. So it's just that Recognition Again.

551
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:13,330
Yep, yep.

552
00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:14,410
No, that's fantastic.

553
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,370
I love that.

554
00:21:15,810 --> 00:21:17,770
And then signing up to receive their newsletters,

555
00:21:17,770 --> 00:21:19,290
if they do an email newsletter.

556
00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:22,850
One, it's always exciting when someone signs up for your own

557
00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:25,850
newsletter. So if they're a small rescue,

558
00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:28,770
they're gonna be excited when someone signs up and then you're

559
00:21:28,770 --> 00:21:31,850
gonna know what's going on so that you can make comments

560
00:21:31,900 --> 00:21:35,130
on social media and at the events that you're attending about

561
00:21:35,130 --> 00:21:37,090
things that are happening in the organization,

562
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,370
it's gonna give you something to talk about.

563
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,290
I bet you could also,

564
00:21:41,660 --> 00:21:43,490
if they have an event coming up,

565
00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:44,090
if you,

566
00:21:44,550 --> 00:21:45,090
you know,

567
00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:48,330
shared it on social media or you know,

568
00:21:48,340 --> 00:21:51,570
re re re-shared it or you know,

569
00:21:51,570 --> 00:21:53,250
added it to your stories or things like that,

570
00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:57,450
they're gonna get a notification that you shared it or they'll

571
00:21:57,450 --> 00:21:58,490
see it if you tag them.

572
00:21:59,510 --> 00:22:01,970
And that that newsletter will let you know what's going on.

573
00:22:01,970 --> 00:22:04,530
And so then you become a resource for your potential clients.

574
00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:06,010
You're sharing the work that they're doing,

575
00:22:06,270 --> 00:22:07,330
everybody's happy,

576
00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:08,290
everybody wins,

577
00:22:08,290 --> 00:22:08,970
you have content.

578
00:22:10,610 --> 00:22:12,050
Great. Yes.

579
00:22:12,550 --> 00:22:13,090
All right.

580
00:22:13,090 --> 00:22:15,530
Awesome. So we've started to make that network,

581
00:22:15,810 --> 00:22:17,970
we've started to become a recognized name.

582
00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:18,370
What else?

583
00:22:18,370 --> 00:22:21,570
What else can we do to start to make those connections?

584
00:22:22,180 --> 00:22:23,810
So Then find the right people,

585
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,290
I guess?

586
00:22:24,290 --> 00:22:27,490
Yeah, So figuring out those key players in the rescue,

587
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,610
a lot of rescues are gonna have it on their website,

588
00:22:31,610 --> 00:22:33,450
who is on their board of directors,

589
00:22:33,950 --> 00:22:35,770
who their staff is.

590
00:22:35,950 --> 00:22:37,850
And that's a great way to just kind of get that

591
00:22:37,850 --> 00:22:40,570
list of names so that you know who you're looking for.

592
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:42,290
And it might be on their website.

593
00:22:42,290 --> 00:22:45,250
Some of the smaller rescues aren't going to have that on

594
00:22:45,250 --> 00:22:46,290
your, on their website.

595
00:22:46,460 --> 00:22:48,370
So it's gonna take some more digging.

596
00:22:48,370 --> 00:22:51,770
And that's probably gonna be where attending the events and getting

597
00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:53,690
on the newsletter is gonna help you get in the door

598
00:22:53,690 --> 00:22:54,930
there to find those right people.

599
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:56,610
And you can also see,

600
00:22:56,610 --> 00:22:58,770
so like I know our County Humane Society,

601
00:22:58,770 --> 00:23:02,330
they have a board of directors that kind of runs everything

602
00:23:02,330 --> 00:23:05,890
and then they have what they call their advisory board who

603
00:23:05,890 --> 00:23:08,610
is in charge of all of their events and marketing and

604
00:23:08,810 --> 00:23:09,970
fundraising. Interesting.

605
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,170
I haven't heard of that before.

606
00:23:11,170 --> 00:23:12,450
Yeah. Or it's almost like two,

607
00:23:12,550 --> 00:23:13,730
two boards sort of,

608
00:23:14,050 --> 00:23:16,090
or just a board and then that panel that does all

609
00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:16,410
that stuff.

610
00:23:16,410 --> 00:23:18,330
Yeah. So See if there's something like that.

611
00:23:18,330 --> 00:23:22,690
Or is there a committee that's just about their fundraising and

612
00:23:22,690 --> 00:23:24,290
events and things like that?

613
00:23:24,510 --> 00:23:27,770
Can you volunteer to help that board?

614
00:23:28,430 --> 00:23:30,570
Can you get the list of names of who those people

615
00:23:30,570 --> 00:23:31,730
are? Those are always,

616
00:23:31,810 --> 00:23:33,970
those are gonna be the people that are gonna be making

617
00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:36,250
decisions about who they're partnering with.

618
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:38,130
Yeah. Yeah.

619
00:23:38,130 --> 00:23:40,210
And those are the important people to have a relationship with.

620
00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:43,210
Or you just become the wine person that is sending the

621
00:23:43,210 --> 00:23:44,130
email again and again.

622
00:23:44,450 --> 00:23:46,200
Yeah, yeah.

623
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:49,360
Yeah. And then a lot of times in rescues,

624
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:50,640
especially small rescues,

625
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,800
you'll find out that there's really just a small core of

626
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,480
volunteers that kind of do everything.

627
00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:58,520
So even if they have a larger board,

628
00:23:59,370 --> 00:24:02,240
there's really like 12 people on the board,

629
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,840
but six people that are at the events kind of really

630
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,720
make the decisions.

631
00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:09,720
And the other six people on the board are major donors.

632
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:12,040
Gotcha. So kind of,

633
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,440
that's kind of your next bit of homework is figuring out

634
00:24:14,860 --> 00:24:16,040
who you wanna talk to.

635
00:24:16,060 --> 00:24:19,280
And then you've got paid staff for some of your shelters

636
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,280
or your bigger rescue organizations may have a paid staff.

637
00:24:23,010 --> 00:24:25,310
And then you can use that same list of names that

638
00:24:25,310 --> 00:24:28,270
you've now gathered and see if you have a connection to

639
00:24:28,270 --> 00:24:28,750
any of them.

640
00:24:28,750 --> 00:24:32,430
Can I go back to your friends list and your vets

641
00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:37,920
and is there someone that can send a personal email introduction

642
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:38,440
for you?

643
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,120
Right. Yeah,

644
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:41,320
that's probably something too,

645
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,080
You might be able to use LinkedIn.

646
00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:46,040
I know I still don't really use it that much,

647
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,680
but if,

648
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,520
especially on a board of directors,

649
00:24:48,890 --> 00:24:49,680
if they're,

650
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,120
you know,

651
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:54,040
bigger donors or they have these other businesses or you know,

652
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,400
high profile somewhere in the community,

653
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:56,120
they very,

654
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:59,080
what Mel very well might have LinkedIn that you might have

655
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,120
connections that way too.

656
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:02,520
So don't forget to check that along with Facebook.

657
00:25:02,790 --> 00:25:03,440
Good thought.

658
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,640
Yeah. Okay.

659
00:25:05,890 --> 00:25:07,280
Perfect. Oh yeah,

660
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:07,520
go ahead.

661
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,040
You've got your,

662
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,240
you've got your rescues,

663
00:25:09,380 --> 00:25:11,520
you know who you wanna talk to there.

664
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:15,850
And then I think the other biggest piece of this puzzle

665
00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:20,490
is how can you give without asking for something at first,

666
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:29,090
even though like we've seen these calendar contests do fantastic that

667
00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:30,770
Jess put together,

668
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,810
that's in your,

669
00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:37,400
if you're just kind cold emailing someone that you don't know

670
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:37,800
and be like,

671
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,400
Hey, I'd like to do a calendar for you.

672
00:25:40,030 --> 00:25:43,120
They don't really understand what it is that you're offering or

673
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:44,120
how that's gonna work for them.

674
00:25:45,270 --> 00:25:46,240
That known name,

675
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,360
you've gotta be someone that they know gives or you can

676
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:52,080
ask them to put something together for you.

677
00:25:52,580 --> 00:25:55,040
Yep. So some of ways that you can do that that

678
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,600
are not photography related.

679
00:25:57,230 --> 00:25:59,760
Donating money supplies,

680
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,240
old towels when you're getting ready to throw them out,

681
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,160
commenting, sharing,

682
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,400
interacting on their social media,

683
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,760
like we talked about volunteering.

684
00:26:08,530 --> 00:26:12,290
So our local shelter does doggie dates,

685
00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:15,250
so you can go and like pick a dog up on

686
00:26:15,250 --> 00:26:18,170
a Tuesday afternoon and take it to eat lunch in town

687
00:26:18,170 --> 00:26:19,010
and bring it back.

688
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,410
That's amazing.

689
00:26:20,410 --> 00:26:21,730
Our shelter does that too.

690
00:26:21,730 --> 00:26:22,770
Our big city shelter,

691
00:26:22,770 --> 00:26:23,490
it's fantastic.

692
00:26:23,490 --> 00:26:25,730
They do stay patients too,

693
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:28,370
where you can actually take the dog for like two nights.

694
00:26:28,830 --> 00:26:30,170
And I'm like,

695
00:26:30,270 --> 00:26:31,290
how brilliant too,

696
00:26:31,290 --> 00:26:35,570
because that gives people such a stress free way to like,

697
00:26:35,620 --> 00:26:37,570
Oh, maybe I do wanna adopt this dog,

698
00:26:37,570 --> 00:26:39,690
but you're not like adopting and then have to go back,

699
00:26:39,690 --> 00:26:40,010
Oh no,

700
00:26:40,010 --> 00:26:40,810
this one doesn't work.

701
00:26:40,810 --> 00:26:41,250
You're like,

702
00:26:41,250 --> 00:26:41,930
Oh, stress free.

703
00:26:41,930 --> 00:26:42,330
Let's see.

704
00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:43,800
You fit so perfectly.

705
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,920
Yes, of course I'm gonna keep you.

706
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,160
Yeah, Yeah,

707
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,600
yeah. When like,

708
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,000
you know,

709
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,680
kinda the benefit of being your own boss in photography means

710
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,600
that you can do that.

711
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,120
Like if you don't,

712
00:26:55,270 --> 00:26:57,720
like I'm not shooting sessions in the middle of the day,

713
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,880
so sometimes I can go,

714
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,480
especially when it's nice and cool,

715
00:27:00,550 --> 00:27:03,000
pick up a dog and do a 30 minute walk in

716
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,280
the park.

717
00:27:03,710 --> 00:27:07,120
Yeah. Exercise and a little doggy time win.

718
00:27:07,150 --> 00:27:08,920
Yeah. And it's really,

719
00:27:09,030 --> 00:27:10,360
really good for the dogs.

720
00:27:10,550 --> 00:27:12,720
Like it's hard to live in like a little box.

721
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:15,640
Yeah. Even at a shelter where they really love you,

722
00:27:16,210 --> 00:27:17,640
so it's a good break for them.

723
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,960
Yeah, absolutely.

724
00:27:19,460 --> 00:27:19,960
All right,

725
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,800
so doggy dates,

726
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,360
What Else?

727
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:22,400
Yeah, you can also,

728
00:27:22,670 --> 00:27:25,360
like, if you don't necessarily want to be inside the shelter,

729
00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:28,320
you can volunteer to write thank you notes for them,

730
00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:30,180
which you can do at home,

731
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,580
but it takes Yeah.

732
00:27:31,580 --> 00:27:34,420
A big kinda admin task off their plate.

733
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,220
Yep. And then just ask like,

734
00:27:38,980 --> 00:27:40,530
is there anything that I can do to help?

735
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,730
Yeah, no,

736
00:27:41,730 --> 00:27:42,130
I love that.

737
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,650
Okay. Yeah.

738
00:27:43,650 --> 00:27:44,170
What else?

739
00:27:44,450 --> 00:27:48,370
Is there anything of photography wise that we can do besides,

740
00:27:48,370 --> 00:27:49,610
of course we all know the,

741
00:27:49,610 --> 00:27:49,970
Oh yeah.

742
00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:51,050
Let me come in a,

743
00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:51,850
you know,

744
00:27:51,850 --> 00:27:53,770
photographs of adoptable animals for you.

745
00:27:53,770 --> 00:27:54,730
But are there any other,

746
00:27:55,290 --> 00:27:58,290
other ways that we can use our photography To Yes,

747
00:27:58,290 --> 00:27:58,690
you're right,

748
00:27:58,690 --> 00:27:59,730
adoptable animals.

749
00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:03,450
You can also ask if there are any special cases.

750
00:28:03,450 --> 00:28:06,090
Like do you have a dog that's been here a really

751
00:28:06,090 --> 00:28:06,690
long time?

752
00:28:07,540 --> 00:28:09,930
Is there a dog that has some kind of medical thing

753
00:28:09,930 --> 00:28:10,930
that needs photographed?

754
00:28:11,290 --> 00:28:15,410
You can also volunteer to photograph the events or things that

755
00:28:15,410 --> 00:28:16,050
they're doing there,

756
00:28:16,290 --> 00:28:19,850
which can be a really kind of a twofold benefit for

757
00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:20,450
you. One,

758
00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:23,890
you're getting to volunteer with the rescue group and then I've

759
00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:27,370
been able to submit those images to our local paper and

760
00:28:27,370 --> 00:28:29,850
then get published with a byline Oh nice.

761
00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:32,050
With my images and my little photography thing.

762
00:28:32,050 --> 00:28:36,180
And then they link on their mobile or their web version

763
00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:38,100
right. To my website,

764
00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:39,380
Which is awesome.

765
00:28:39,580 --> 00:28:40,100
SEO juice.

766
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:40,900
That's fantastic.

767
00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:42,460
Yeah. Yeah.

768
00:28:42,610 --> 00:28:43,180
I love that.

769
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,540
And It kind of ties my photography business to this charity,

770
00:28:48,620 --> 00:28:51,220
which kind of builds all that feel good marketing for people.

771
00:28:51,220 --> 00:28:54,380
Absolutely. I can't tell you how many times in Pittsburgh I

772
00:28:54,380 --> 00:28:56,220
had clients that would say like,

773
00:28:56,220 --> 00:28:57,020
Oh we're,

774
00:28:57,020 --> 00:28:58,900
we'd love all the work that you do with the Western

775
00:28:58,900 --> 00:28:59,980
Pennsylvania Humane Society.

776
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,860
Cuz I did,

777
00:29:00,860 --> 00:29:01,300
you know,

778
00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:03,140
help them with their photographing their calendar.

779
00:29:03,170 --> 00:29:04,340
I was always at their gala.

780
00:29:05,130 --> 00:29:08,300
I did some adoptable pictures for a while,

781
00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:10,940
but then got a little too busy to be going in

782
00:29:10,940 --> 00:29:11,740
and doing that part.

783
00:29:11,740 --> 00:29:13,940
But I still volunteered and helped them in some of these

784
00:29:13,940 --> 00:29:14,940
other ways you talk about,

785
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,380
But it's one of those things that it may not,

786
00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:21,820
like the first time you volunteer does not mean that all

787
00:29:21,820 --> 00:29:23,140
of a sudden your phone starts ringing.

788
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,580
But it definitely builds this awareness marketing and this feel good,

789
00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:32,260
this feel good brand identity that,

790
00:29:32,260 --> 00:29:32,540
you know,

791
00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:34,940
people that love these rescues see that you're working with them

792
00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:36,820
and then therefore they love your brand now too.

793
00:29:36,830 --> 00:29:37,460
So it's,

794
00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:39,660
it's just a great thing and you feel great doing it.

795
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:40,420
So yeah,

796
00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:43,000
no one should go out and volunteer just for business,

797
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200
like find something that you're passionate about too.

798
00:29:45,340 --> 00:29:47,080
But there's so many ways that it gives back.

799
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,520
It's just,

800
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,280
it's just crazy.

801
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:52,440
Yeah. I have one more photography way that I think could

802
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,040
be good too.

803
00:29:53,540 --> 00:29:55,080
And that is,

804
00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:55,840
you know,

805
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,760
you could get together if you had an idea for,

806
00:29:59,330 --> 00:30:03,560
or just offer your photography services to help photograph if they

807
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,400
had a marketing campaign or something coming up for the shelter

808
00:30:06,730 --> 00:30:09,760
or the rescue and just really offering to either get them

809
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,920
some website images or campaign images or whatever that is.

810
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:15,480
And you know,

811
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,640
you can definitely do that.

812
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:20,120
It's kind of one of those things was like,

813
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,800
okay, maybe you wanna get more into commercial photography,

814
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,520
but you need some commercial things to say,

815
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,320
Hey, I've done this.

816
00:30:26,590 --> 00:30:28,680
This is a great way that you can give back.

817
00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:29,480
You know,

818
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,920
you can offer to do it as a,

819
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,000
as a gift to them.

820
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,280
You can offer to do it at a very low price.

821
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,360
I would probably go as,

822
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,000
Hey, let me do this as a gift for you.

823
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,360
So that way I'm kind of building my portfolio of it.

824
00:30:40,580 --> 00:30:41,920
I'm giving them great images.

825
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:46,080
I've now created this incredible relationship with them that then we

826
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,720
can start to do some of these other things in the

827
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,080
future. So Yeah,

828
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,160
that's a great idea.

829
00:30:50,790 --> 00:30:51,640
Yeah. Yeah.

830
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:52,560
That's good fun too.

831
00:30:53,090 --> 00:30:54,600
Awesome. All Right.

832
00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:55,920
And then you've got your,

833
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,840
your calendar contest and then mini sessions or session fee fundraising.

834
00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:04,400
Yep. Events that you can do that are all in that

835
00:31:04,820 --> 00:31:06,360
photography umbrella.

836
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:07,440
Yep. Yep.

837
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,680
And spoiler alert,

838
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,920
if you guys are academy members,

839
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,440
how to do all of those is in the academy and

840
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,560
the silent auction donations.

841
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,680
So go check it out.

842
00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:17,400
Oh, Those little mini sessions.

843
00:31:17,550 --> 00:31:20,000
I still use the template from you and I run them

844
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,800
four times a year and it is my biggest kind of

845
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,520
builder of referral marketing.

846
00:31:24,770 --> 00:31:25,400
Oh my god,

847
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:25,880
I love it.

848
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,720
That's fantastic.

849
00:31:27,030 --> 00:31:30,520
Yeah, you guys go check it out in the academy [email protected].

850
00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:31,720
All right.

851
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:33,760
So those are some great ways to give back.

852
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,760
So here becomes the,

853
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:41,440
like the big question that everybody is always asking and their

854
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,840
biggest pain point and the thing they wanna know.

855
00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:49,120
But this last piece about how to get the rescues to

856
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,240
promote what we're doing relies so much on these things that

857
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,280
we talked about before kind of being in place.

858
00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:57,960
Because if you skipped all those steps and went straight to

859
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,240
here, which I think is where people sometimes run into challenges

860
00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:03,720
or maybe they don't follow some of these best practices we're

861
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,200
gonna talk about.

862
00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:05,480
But you know,

863
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,560
if you guys are listening up till now and we get

864
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,440
to this part and you're like,

865
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,480
great, I'm just gonna do that.

866
00:32:09,770 --> 00:32:10,240
No, no,

867
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,080
no. You need to make sure some of these other steps

868
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,880
that we've already talked about are also in place that Exactly.

869
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:15,920
Yeah. Yeah.

870
00:32:17,130 --> 00:32:17,680
So Courtney,

871
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,880
so tell us how the heck do we get our rescues

872
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,480
to promote for us for these things that we're doing with

873
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,560
them? Yeah,

874
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,320
so kind of the first rule is to evaluate past behavior.

875
00:32:28,930 --> 00:32:30,640
My wife is a clinical psychologist.

876
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,440
She says the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

877
00:32:35,690 --> 00:32:36,360
So Yeah.

878
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,120
Yep. If you can look and see what they've done done

879
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,160
in the past and it seems like,

880
00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:41,680
you know,

881
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,360
yes, they've promoted some things and they seem to have been

882
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,960
successful, that's like a big green light.

883
00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:51,240
Yep. And then the other piece of that is to make

884
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,360
it really easy for them to do so you can write

885
00:32:55,420 --> 00:32:56,840
all of the copy for them.

886
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,080
So they're just copying and pasting into their newsletters and social

887
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,640
media. You can design all the graphics and then if you

888
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,760
really wanna go over the top,

889
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,640
you can offer to be an admin on their social media

890
00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:10,800
for the time running it.

891
00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:15,200
Yeah. And you just schedule everything yourself and you know it's,

892
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,280
Yeah. And you can follow up with the questions and stuff

893
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,200
like that that people might have on the social media.

894
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,280
Keep an eye on those posts.

895
00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:24,000
Yeah. And I found that's really successful.

896
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,720
A lot of them don't have a problem making me an

897
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,560
admin for the,

898
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:27,960
you know,

899
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,480
month that we're promoting this because I provide them still a

900
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,320
copy of all the copy we're gonna post.

901
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,720
They know what it's gonna Right,

902
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,360
so they can approve it.

903
00:33:35,870 --> 00:33:39,080
Yeah. But then they don't actually have to do it.

904
00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:41,320
Yes. That is brilliant.

905
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,440
I never thought about that.

906
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:43,320
That's a,

907
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,160
that's a great idea.

908
00:33:44,290 --> 00:33:44,960
Oh my gosh,

909
00:33:45,550 --> 00:33:48,120
this has been so full of so many good ideas.

910
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Do you guys have great ideas out there?

911
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,680
Are you ready to go connect with your local rescues?

912
00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:53,120
I mean,

913
00:33:53,710 --> 00:33:58,160
I think this is such a great avenue to market and

914
00:33:58,340 --> 00:33:58,880
you know,

915
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,120
there's so many people that just pour their heart and soul

916
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,400
into these organizations,

917
00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:05,280
you know?

918
00:34:05,410 --> 00:34:08,680
Or even if they are not volunteering large amounts of hours,

919
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,360
like they got their dog through there.

920
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,200
So they have this special place in their heart and they

921
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,240
always still wanna help them.

922
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:17,200
And you're offering these great opportunities to be able to photograph

923
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:17,880
the dog they love,

924
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,640
help that rescue,

925
00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:24,800
and it becomes such a synergistic great partnership that I think

926
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,840
is completely worthwhile.

927
00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:27,640
But it does maybe take a little bit of,

928
00:34:27,830 --> 00:34:29,920
a little bit of trial and error to find the right

929
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,720
partners, but this can definitely get people on the right foot,

930
00:34:34,670 --> 00:34:36,880
make that process a little bit easier.

931
00:34:37,470 --> 00:34:38,720
Before we wrap up,

932
00:34:38,850 --> 00:34:43,280
is there anything else that you want to let people know

933
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,000
or kind of,

934
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,360
you know,

935
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:48,520
some general encouragement for people out there that maybe have been

936
00:34:49,070 --> 00:34:53,480
either maybe the experience didn't go as they thought or it

937
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,160
was just didn't work out?

938
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,040
Like what advice do you have for them?

939
00:34:57,470 --> 00:35:00,640
I think that there are so many different rescue organizations out

940
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,560
there. It's almost like there are so many different photographers out

941
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,760
there. There's gonna be right match for everyone.

942
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,800
Sometimes it takes a couple of tries.

943
00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:11,560
And I think the people that love these rescues,

944
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,560
which you kind of mentioned before,

945
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,040
like even if they're not heavily involved in the rescue,

946
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,320
they just adopt from there.

947
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,000
Or they've donated a couple of times,

948
00:35:19,290 --> 00:35:23,120
they're so passionate about that rescue that they are really passionate

949
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,080
about the businesses that work with those rescues too.

950
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:27,880
Yeah. Yeah.

951
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,200
Absolutely. So you guys just keep on trying and yeah,

952
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,800
this will be,

953
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,640
just listen to this episode again.

954
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,720
There was so much good information in here,

955
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:41,200
like it was definitely will help anyone out there start to

956
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,640
make these connections with their rescues.

957
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,560
Courtney, thank you so much for sharing this with us and

958
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,360
sharing your experience.

959
00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:48,800
Before you go,

960
00:35:49,060 --> 00:35:51,720
can you let people know where to find you for your

961
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:52,520
photography business,

962
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,560
but also where to find your rescue information so we can

963
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,120
all follow your awesome rescue efforts?

964
00:35:59,630 --> 00:36:01,240
Yeah, so for photography,

965
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:02,960
I'm most active on Instagram.

966
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,280
You can find me at CM Bryson.

967
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,320
My website is also cm bryson.com

968
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:09,940
for the rescue.

969
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:13,020
We are the rescue ranch in Rutledge,

970
00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:16,420
Georgia, and we're most active on Facebook over there.

971
00:36:16,420 --> 00:36:16,900
Oh, okay.

972
00:36:17,170 --> 00:36:19,740
Nice. A rescue ranch.

973
00:36:19,740 --> 00:36:20,620
That's really cute.

974
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:22,740
So yeah,

975
00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:24,220
mostly Bostons.

976
00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:27,340
And now we also have pigs and donkeys and goats and

977
00:36:27,340 --> 00:36:27,620
a horse.

978
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:29,740
Oh, I love it.

979
00:36:29,790 --> 00:36:30,460
Oh my gosh,

980
00:36:30,490 --> 00:36:32,540
I always joke that I want a house goat.

981
00:36:34,810 --> 00:36:35,740
I love goats.

982
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:37,300
Oh, that's my dream.

983
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:38,860
To live on the farm like you.

984
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:40,660
But here I am in the suburbs,

985
00:36:40,660 --> 00:36:41,380
maybe one day.

986
00:36:43,630 --> 00:36:44,300
Oh man.

987
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:44,900
All right.

988
00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:45,260
Well Courtney,

989
00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:46,300
thank you so,

990
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:47,500
so much for being here.

991
00:36:48,140 --> 00:36:52,220
Everyone go let Courtney know how helpful she was and keep

992
00:36:52,220 --> 00:36:53,140
us both posted.

993
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,900
I'm on Instagram at nicole Bigley official.

994
00:36:56,460 --> 00:37:00,340
Keep us posted on any connections you're making with your rescues

995
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,660
and you know,

996
00:37:01,660 --> 00:37:04,220
all the progress that you're gonna make out of listening to

997
00:37:04,220 --> 00:37:07,300
this episode cuz we would love to cheer you on and

998
00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:09,020
we'll see you guys all next week.

999
00:37:09,250 --> 00:37:10,460
Thanks for everybody.

1000
00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:11,380
Of course.

1001
00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:11,940
Thank you Courtney.

1002
00:37:12,130 --> 00:37:14,140
Thanks for listening to the Hair of the Dog podcast.

1003
00:37:14,450 --> 00:37:16,860
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1004
00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:19,220
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1005
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1006
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1007
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1008
00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:31,100
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1013
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1015
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